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November 28, 2007

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People have a right to expect their emails to be private!

Why am I having to tell Democrats the Holy Knights of Privacy this?

Jodi

Perhaps it's because the rest of us know about the Presidential Records Act. Aside from the fact that no one in govt really SHOULD expect their emails to be private. There are laws about that, you know.

emptywheel,

does this mean that the FBI is going to arrest Mr Bloch for violating the Presidential Records Act?

What are the penalties that we are talking about here?

?nil?

How did he get away with calling in a private firm to do this? Was he afraid that if he called his local IT guys they'd refuse and report him (and to whom whould he have been reported)?

EW, maybe the troll should go read that post about cell phones and surveillance from a few days back, just for educational purposes.

P J

well, maybe you don't understand the law. I think the lawyers don't either because they keep arguing about it and not just that one thing.

Conspiracy. He's on the hook for that, if his intentions are proven to be less than pure. What's the chances that a guy [adjective of choice here] enough to hire and pay for a private firm to do a military wipe of multiple hard drives would find out how to do that on his own?

My money is on coaching from somebody.

And he's gotten coaching from somebody not smart enough to tell him that even a military wipe isn't enough to obliterate mail...or perhaps somebody meant to leave the breadcrumbs they did.


Jodi -- you voted for these people, you tell us. What's the odds. And frankly, you in theory being the supposed proponent of smaller, smarter and accountable government, why would anybody assume as a government employee paid by public monies while serving the public that their emails and the emails of similar employed subordinates on government-owned equipment were in any way private? I do remember there being a sh*tstorm of wrath about lost emails during the Clinton years -- when did the rules change? Why not be honest for once in your troll-life and simply admit that you believe It's Okay If You're A Republican to break the laws? You could go on with your life someplace else, save us all a bunch of time.

Why not be honest for once in your troll-life and simply admit that you believe It's Okay If You're A Republican to break the laws? You could go on with your life someplace else, save us all a bunch of time.
Posted by: Rayne | November 28, 2007 at 12:37

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Posted by: Shit Stain Jodi | November 28, 2007 at 12:20

Is the shit stain's lack of understanding histrionic or genuine?

Those Repugs sure like the "paperless society" 'cause they don't have to carry matches around anymore and always be called hurtful things like "serial arsonist".

Why I now hear the Repugs are going to change their party symbol to a big horseshoe magnet.

I have a DOS program that does a pretty good job of deleting files - it writes over them at least three times. Not saying it's as good as the one Bloch had done, but it's probably good enough for most purposes. So they're easily available to anyone who wants one. (Googling produces tens of thousands of hits.)

By the way, I voted against President Bush, 43 the 2nd time.

Mad Dogs - the Horsehoe Magnet thing made me spew my coffee!

Jodi - does that mean you voted for - Egads! - John Kerry, the effete Frenchman? Or did you just sit that one out?

PS - please respond in a substantial way to Rayne's questions. I suspect she's on to something there...

"Mr. Bloch phoned 1-800-905-GEEKS for Geeks on Call, the mobile PC-help service."

(I can almost guarantee that he got the idea to use 'Geeks on Call' from their ad on the Limbaugh show.)

Scott Bloch, OSC, the Hatch Act/Presidential Records enforcement Guy, needed his office PC sanitized...outside the eyes of IT...

Who's buying that?

RFW - Well, the person responsible for such investigations in the Bush Administration has fully investigated and determined that there was nothing improper done whatsoever. So says the thorough report on the matter by Scott Bloch, OSC, the Hatch Act/Presidential Records enforcement Guy!

There is another reason why the saintly Mr Bloch might have wanted to call upon a private outside firm.

:wide evil grin:

He claims that he had a virus. Viruses are often picked up by visiting porn sites or downloading warez. I would like to assume that the government's email system provider had a basic anti-virus filter, but that doesn't help if a person goes deliberately to a site and clicks a link.

Geeks-on-Call probably have a clause in their contract that says they won't blab about whatever they find on a computer. This could protect trade secrets or embarrassment. When Rush Limbaugh was checking out vacation sites for under-age love nests and stocking up on Viagra, he probably acquired computer files that he wanted gone-gone-gone. Discretely.

What did Mr Bloch want gone-gone-gone?

I'm undecided here . . . on whether it was corruption, kiddy pr0n, or both.

How does the timing of this case match up with those Bush Admin officials arrested for child pornography, anyway?

But seriously, this stinks to high hell. This should be a front page story, and my best guess is covering up his obstruction of justice. (Obstructing justice to cover up obstruction of justice . . . should result in a logarithmic prison sentence).

And idoJ sucks.

so has geeks on call provided the name of the person who is guilty of helping Mr Bloch obstruct justice (10 year maximum sentence) and destroy evidence (What's the sentencing maximum for that in the US Code)

cuz once the poor bastard realizes that he's facing 10 years in the federal pen, I'm sure our favorite "Geek On Call" is gonna testify against mr bloch

and don't you people know that the shit stain is a good indicator of the outcome here

if the shit stain says innocent, you just know the jury will say guilty

the shit stain is 100 pecent wrong, so use that as an assett

the shit stain is kinda like george bush

incompetence in action

By the way, I voted against President Bush, 43 the 2nd time.
Posted by: Shit Stain Jodi | November 28, 2007 at 13:03

You voted for him before you voted against him... but who gives a shit stain jodi?

Perhaps if we can ever have a just world, this is just one more bushie that will be forever forbidden to hold any governmental position in this lifetime or the next.

Really, what kind of legal career can he have? Would you follow his legal advice if you were a CEO or Board member of a large corporation? Would you have any confidence that he properly prepared the closing documents for even a small real estate transaction?

Perhaps he can find some cushy spot on some right wing think of ways to screw the people tank and suck on the teat of wingnut welfare. But... that won't last long when they figure out how stupid he really is as his e-mails are retrieved from e-mail the different servers they went through.

It may take a while but this guy is dead meat. Even if he gets a pResnit pardon he'll still get dis-barred.

Perhaps if we can ever have a just world, this is just one more bushie that will be forever forbidden to hold any governmental position in this lifetime or the next.

Really, what kind of legal career can he have? Would you follow his legal advice if you were a CEO or Board member of a large corporation? Would you have any confidence that he properly prepared the closing documents for even a small real estate transaction?

Perhaps he can find some cushy spot on some right wing think of ways to screw the people tank and suck on the teat of wingnut welfare. But... that won't last long when they figure out how stupid he really is as his e-mails are retrieved from e-mail the different servers they went through.

It may take a while but this guy is dead meat. Even if he gets a pResnit pardon he'll still get dis-barred.

Geeks-on-Call probably have a clause in their contract that says they won't blab about whatever they find on a computer.

Well, fuck that shit and subpoena them. Let's see how contractual privilege runs up against abetting obstruction of justice, destroying evidence and a Presidential Records Act violation. And doesn't the FBI take the presence of eraser or strong encryption software as inherently suspicious?

He claims that he had a virus. Viruses are often picked up by visiting porn sites or downloading warez.

Or from those wonderful forwarded emails, though one would hope that the WH's email server would scan and/or strip attachments. Of course, if he had a GOP address, all bets are off.

(sigh) has anyone heard anything whatsoever about any Democrat anywhere with investigatory responsibility (i.e. congressional/senatorial rank) who is doing anything at all about obtaining all those Republican/RNC e-mails that, like Scotty Bloch's erased e-mails, supposedly exist on numerous traceable servers?

I'm asking because I seriously don't know the answer and haven't read anything about it in the longest time. A bunch of subpoenas get issued, then.....nothing. am I missing something? are the wheels of justice somehow grinding silently in the background against this crime syndicate that is the Bush administration, and all goons and thugs? My guess is, not at all. Why even write about it? "Presidential Records Act?" WHO CARES? Scotty's going to get away with this, just like the rest of them have (and if the parties were reversed, we'd have at least a half-dozen special prosecutors a la Ken Starr on steroids, raking Democrats over the coals round the clock, wouldn't we.)

I just don't understand why none of these maggots is in jail yet. Sorry, I'll go away now.

I don't understand why some folks don't understand that it is necessary from time to time to do a little housekeeping on your files, and your computer or things just keep piling up.

And now we know what happened to the emails. A virus destroyed them.

Heck. What a shame. Anyway, a good opportunity to clean up those old records.

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