by emptywheel
Although Carol Lam, in her answers to HJC, never directly said she was forced out of her position because of pending cases, she provided one significant answer about how main DOJ--and the "highest levels of government" they work for--treated Lam's pending cases. Significantly, she provided this answer in response to a question that had nothing to do with pending cases.
20. After you were so notified by Mr. Battle, did you have any conversations with either DAG Paul McNulty or DAG Chief of Staff Michael Elston about the reasons why you were being asked to resign? If so, please describe your recollection of these conversations.
Following the call from Michael Battle informing me I was to resign effective January 31, 2007, I called DAG McNulty to inquire why I was being asked to resign. He responded that he wanted some time to think about how to answer that question because he didn't want to give me an answer "that would lead" me down the wrong route. He added that he knew I had personally taken on a long trial and he had great respect for me. Mr. McNulty never responded to my question.
After a follow-up call with Mike Battle a few days later, I requested additional time to ensure an orderly transition in the office, especially regarding pending investigations and several significant cases that were set to begin trial in the next few months. On January 5, 2007, I received a call from Michael Elston informing me that my request for more time based on case-related considerations was "not being received positively," and that I should "stop thinking in terms of the cases in the office." He insisted that I had to depart in a matter of weeks, not months, and that these instructions were "coming from the highest levels of the government." In this and subsequent calls, Mike Elston told me that (1) he "suspected" and "had a feeling" that the interim U.S. Attorney who would succeed me would not be someone from within my office, but rather would be someone who was a DOJ employee not currently working in my office, (2) there would be "no overlap" between my departure and the start date of the interim U.S. Attorney, and (3) the person picked to serve as interim U.S. Attorney would not have to be vetted by the committee process used in California for the selection of U.S. Attorneys.[my emphasis]
Geez, where to start? How about with McNulty, who appears to have given no answer to Lam's question rather than reveal the real reasons why she was fired. I do hope he is asked about his cryptic response to Lam.
But of course, the Elston responses are much more telling (he's not a very good shill, seeing as how he made the issues involved in Lam's firing pretty obvious).
Now, if I remember my high school civics course, the "highest level of the government" is the President. Though, in this administration, you could argue compellingly that either Karl Rove or Dick Cheney occupies a higher post. Which begs the question, why was Karl Rove so intent on seeing Carol Lam out of office in weeks, not months? Why didn't Rove "receive positively" Lam's determination to see the cases she was working on in Janaury through to some kind of closure?
(I suspect William Ockham is going to come along and give me some snarky answers to those questions, so I'll just stop with the rhetorical questions now.)
The point, though, is clear. The White House wanted Lam out, and they didn't give a damn if it meant she couldn't bring her cases to closure--or transition them properly to her successor. Rather, they preferred if she couldn't do so.
And I do hope Gerry Parsky reads Lam's response regarding the vetting process for her successor. He was already pissed at the process used to replace Lam and Ryan. But he might like to know that they intended to blow him off entirely. All of which makes it crystal clear that DOJ fully intended to use the PATRIOT provision to replace the fired USAs, especially Lam.
Of course, that plan got screwed up because DOJ's clique botched this so badly. No wonder Dusty Foggo is now trying to get his trial moved to a location where DOJ was already able to install a partisan flunky.
Update:
Two more things on Lam's answers. First, in response to a question of whether the FBI was consulted on the impact her firing would have on pending cases, Lam said she didn't believe they were consulted.
I also like her response to a question about Congressional inquiries about pending cases:
During my 4-1/2 years as United States Attorney, I received occasional inquiries about my office's work from Congressional staffers or Congressmen. As required by DOJ policy, I referred all such inquiries to the Department of Justice.
I like it because she puts the onus on DOJ to tell the truth about these. And she doesn't reveal to Congressmen (Issa? Cunningham?) whether or not Congress will learn of these inquiries. Who knows whether she detailed this off the record?
No snark on this. Rather, now we're getting to the key to the whole mess. The mass firing was all about getting rid of Lam ASAP. Here are my questions:
1. Why, after talking about this plan for nearly two years, did they rush it through in late 2006 just after losing control of the Senate? (Hint: They knew they could only get away with firing USAs when their terms had expired.)
2. Who was the only fired USA to ask for an extension and not get it? (Hint: Check out DAG0043.)
3. Who was the only USA that they had a "real problem" with that was so serious Sampson wanted her out "the day her 4-year term expires"? (Hint: OAG0022)
4. Who was the only USA personally attacked in the Senate after she was fired?
5. Who was the only USA actively investigating companies with direct dealings with the White House?
Posted by: William Ockham | May 02, 2007 at 15:47
so there's another base count of OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE to add to the RICO conspiricy prosecution
and there are a few reports of bogus criminal cases being filed against Democrats in Pittsburgh
each phony prosecution is another base count
what we're looking at is about a dozen base counts of Obstruction of Justice
then we start adding the layers
gonzo's abdication of his constitutional duties to sampson and lawyer goodling
abus and sampson's lies to Senator Pryor
the lies contained in abu's written resopnses to Congress
sampson's lies to Congress
abu's lies to Congress
there are enough shells and peripherials to qualify under the RICO statute
when do we get our Special Prosecutor ???
Posted by: freepatriot | May 02, 2007 at 15:47
off topic, but directly related to my above comment:
tpmmuckraker has an article that exposes actual extortion in the Arizona USA case
extortion is rackettering
rackettering is the "R" in RICO
Posted by: freepatriot | May 02, 2007 at 15:57
Apparently, a snarky response is not as satisfying when it's predicted. And note Mr Ockham has in turn invited the same by his own insightful rhetoric.
Posted by: Neil | May 02, 2007 at 16:05
Actually WO, I suspect we'll find that Lam is not the only one investigating companies with direct ties to the WH. She's just the one investigating the most pressing ties to the WH. And of course, she is by no means the only USA investigating the WH--if that were the issue, Patrick Fitzgerald would have been higher on the list than Lam. Which raises the question why they did it with Lam and not Fitz.
Posted by: emptywheel | May 02, 2007 at 16:08
Don't you think it was just because Fitzgerald was too high profile?
Posted by: Tithonia | May 02, 2007 at 16:12
I think we're starting to get close to my question of a few days ago, "Where's Cheney in all this?"
It looks like Rove and Miers had a plan to stop the investigations into the GOP cash-for-contracts scheme, and this would have led to Cheney's contract with Wilkes for "office furniture" or mail opening or whatever. That would have led to otehr contracts for black ops being run out of the OVP. They also had a scheme to facilitate the transfer of Native American resources to extraction industries one way or the other, which Cheney would have been interested in as well. So interests at "the hgighest levels of government" dovetailed hhere.
Don;t think it is just one thing, like voter fraud or Wilkes/Cunningham or Native American resources. It is about all of it, but mainly the gaining and holding of power and the fleecing of America in every place and every way they could.
Posted by: Mimikatz | May 02, 2007 at 16:43
Fitz was obviously too high profile by the time of his indictments, if not before. Plus, he had Marcy and FDL and a whole gang of bloggers following his every move. Think about that.
Posted by: Mimikatz | May 02, 2007 at 16:47
As does the new Step 3 added by Sampson to his plan [in the second two versions, 11/15 & 12/05]:
Posted by: Mickey | May 02, 2007 at 17:09
Elston to Lam: "Here's your hat, what's your hurry?"
This may be the first time in history a CEO with bragging rights to an MBA fired all the people who were doing exemplary work for his "company." Astounding.
Posted by: Sally | May 02, 2007 at 17:12
as for the timing of the firings,
the renewal of the patriot act
seems a crucial controller of the timing - enacted in 01 or 02, the act was due for renewal in 2006.
after re-patriotization,
it was possible to move ahead with install god's chosen u.s.a's.
as for motive or incentive,
the never-ending revelations about the abrhamoff octopus and the plame investigation,
together with the knowledge rove/bush/cheney had about what had not yet been revealed,
would have provided a strong incentive to figure out how to gain complete presidential control of the u.s. attorney appointment process
so the time line would go something like:
-scheme about what to do and how to make it happen. hit on a patriot act provision
- encourage some u.s.a's to leave as their terms were ending (four did)
- have "interims" handy (palouse) or in place (griffin)
- remove remaining troublesome u.s.a's directly (eight fired)
and then quietly use the patriot act provision to formally anoint the chosen ones without congressional vetting or senatorial approval.
in constitutional terms,
the plan seems to have been to use the patriot act to give the white house COMPLETE control over the appointment of u.s.a's.
in order to cover-up political embarrassment and/or illegal conduct.
as an aside,
in terms of that scheming,
i keep thinking about the little problem that sen specter had with earmarks a year or so ago. as i recall a staffer had distributed quite a bit of federal largess with specter's approval.
no one seemed to know why this tidbit came out at the time.
i'm wondering if it was a bit of softening up blackmail to insure that there would be no opposition on chairman specter's part when it came time to slip the "emergency" appointment provision into the patriot act renewal.
given this bit of presidential deceit, we have every reason now to ask whether there might not be other serious mischief planted by the white house in the patriot act reauthorization.
Posted by: orionATL | May 02, 2007 at 17:35
to continue the line of thought above:
my guess is that the white house's doj manipulations
are really about the white house being able to control what the federal legal system does with respect to republican political activity -
primarily, to insure that investigations of illegal or unfair republican political activity either
don't happen
or
have a nasty, brutish, and short life.
in contradistinction,
the doj firings were intended to sending a warning to u.s. attny's,
something the sociopath rove seems much inclined to do.
the message to others u.s a's was:
if you don't do what we ask be done, you will be replaced.
in 2006, "what we asked be done" was legal findings of some variant of election fraud against dems in an election year.
next time, next year it will be some other demand.
so the firings were a threat about not following orders.
the real interest of the white house
in allowing the president to appoint u.s. a's
is to be able to keep political scandal
and known illegal activity
under control.
Posted by: orionATL | May 02, 2007 at 21:16
Is serving the full 2 years a requirement for something?
It appears to be horribly important to someone to be able to ensure that span of time.
Do they automatically get reappointed? Does health insurance for life kick in? Entitlement to legal representation by the government? Their choice of assignments?
What?
Posted by: hauksdottir | May 03, 2007 at 07:35