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April 02, 2007


Marcy - you are the weediest! Take it as a compliment. Interesting process. I also note the final revisions were by the WH - who apparently control it all.

Anyone willing to speculate how far and deep the Dems in Congress will take this and how aggressive they will be in investigating the "political" connection in the WH? Or are they likely to "paper" this over?

I see Purgegate as an opportunity for the Dems in Congress to open a wedge that would enable them to unmask the WH politicization of the executive branch and bring to task Rove by forcing his resignation or at the very least forcing a withdrawal of all his security clearances. And more importantly shedding light on the role of Bush in how the executive operates to trash the constitution and assume "monarchial" powers.

Riveting emptywheel, thanks so much. All these bastards cash their pay checks every two weeks. That certifies to me that they are deluding themselves into thinking that they are acting in the public's interest. They're not. First, they are trying to save their own worthless asses. Second, they are trying to cover-up for the WH. I believe the law calls that "constructive fraud." "Constructive fraud consists in:
(1) any breach of duty which, without an actually fraudulent intent, gains an advantage to the person in fault or anyone claiming under him by misleading another to his prejudice or to the prejudice of anyone claiming under him." Just because their massively inaccurate, incomplete, and false statements don't directly bring them more cash, however, does not mean that their actions are necessarily "legal." I would argue that in the context of DOJ paycheck, this is even more true.

Biggest lesson learned in my life, from my service in US Navy (Active duty, '79-'85): CYA.

Biggest reason I'm not a politician: CYA all too often translates to "cover up".

I'm no angel, but I do have a conscience. It appears about the only conscience these people (Bush & Co.) have is conscientiously doing everything possible to maintain power.

Not that the Democrats are necessarily much different, but at least they *appear* to be attempting to present a deference to the rule of law and adherence to U.S. constitutional principles. I can only hope these hearings are truly more about substance than show.

At any rate, EW, you and Jane and Christy sure got me hooked on FDL and your SUPERB coverage of the Libby trial; I'm an avid reader of your blogs now. Thanks again.

Hi folks.

I thought I would look in and see how the "I don't recall" refrain the Republicans are singing was going down.

It is a new world, where people are more interested in not making a record of definite statements that someone else might challenge, than speaking frankly and honestly as to the issues, because someone might be found that disputes their statement and they could end up in court. Welcome to the post-Libby world Fitzgerald has wrought.

I would only be willing to venture that yes I wrote that memo or note and that is what I thought at the time. Any current statements are memory limited and somewhat of a guess.

I said it before and here it is again. The Democrats need to be making a record of "governing" like DemFromCT likes to say, and passing legistation that the major section of America wants. Not just what the Union Shop Stewards and the Feminists are demanding.

I ask you what would an ERA give us today that we don't already have?

Unisex bathrooms, equal participation in the draft when the next war comes?

And this I heard from a higher up where I work that has the proverbial "in." President Bush may veto the legistation with the time frames, and benchmarks, or he may make another famous "signing statement" OR he may just let it become law without signing it and then at the appointed time utilize the power he has as "Commander in Chief" to do what he wants with the military in Iraq. e.g. "New events have altered the situation, and I must do what I need to do to protect America's future!"

And one other thing for the less technically inclined snoops. Are you familar with those phone connected fax machines. It will automatically flip to fax if it hears the correct "whine." It is a small personal device and sits on or near a desk, or for that matter at a home. I have been wondering rather these are used very much in government, and if and where records are kept. You see the fax goes to a regular phone number not a fax number. So on the phone records there is no difference between a verbal phone call and a fax. And there are many more ways for the technically proficient to be below the radar.


Oh no, return of Tokyo Jodi and her spectacularly bad breath.

If it wasn't political, then why was it coordinated through the white house political office? Hmm?

Welcome to the post-Libby world Fitzgerald has wrought.

Welcome to the real world, where a large part of the government is corrupt, lying GOP tools, who got caught at it.

Jodi, Jodi, Jodi, you were supposed to copy and paste JUST ONE chaff talking point per thread to derail the discussion, not a whole page! Please retake Troll Indoctrination 101, next Monday 9 am at HQ.

(Dear enemies, sorry for the substandard troll today - you go to info war with the trolls you have, not the trolls you'd like).

-Supervisor 26.

give tokyo jodi a break, greenhouse

it's kinda hard to brush your teeth when you got a worm tongue

hey jodi, good to see that you survived this much sunlight on your foolish beliefs. sorry to tell you that the forecast calls for increasing sunlight that will expose more repuglican criminality, so get out the sunblock and pray

and how many of us knew that tokyo jodi the wormtongue couldn't stay away forever ???

(waves hand)

the freepi are still lurking, but bush has things so fucked up that even the freepi realize that their arguments make the freepi look totally stupid

Thanks freepatriot I had to look it up, but it's very appropriate for tokyo Jodi.

From wiki: "Gríma, called (the) Wormtongue, is a fictional character in J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. He appears in the second and third volumes of the work, The Two Towers and The Return of the King. He is introduced in The Two Towers as the chief advisor to King Théoden of Rohan and henchman of Saruman. Gríma is known as an archetypal flatterer, liar, and manipulator. The name 'Gríma' possibly derives from the word gríma meaning mask in several Germanic languages such as Old English, Old Norse, Old High German and modern Icelandic and Faroese."[...]

Supervisor - I'm Laughing out fucking loud. "The trolls you have, not the trolls you'd like." Belly hurts, must stop laughing.

And Jodi, god bless ya, I don't know why you felt compelled to repeat your "post Fitzgerald world" refain. I guess that crow and sour grapes pie is still causing a bit of indigestion.

However your fax comment is somewhat interesting. Antiquated technology can indeed be just as dangerous as antiquated thinking.

Hey Supervisor 26, I'm seconding Dismayed, LMAO.


usually kneejerkers can't see the forest for the trees. The people here don't like it when I offer rational thinking, so they ignore the fact that I have no love for things Bush. I just don't wear blinders like most here.

I can give you half a dozen ways to send info around the Whitehouse system, as long as they aren't trying to monitor things.

A desk or deskside fax is useful for many things. They still make the combination scanner, printer, fax type quite small if you want. They can transmit a legal signature.

But especially in this day of automatically archieved e-mails! The computer itself with the proper software can send and receive a fax, but that is easy to pick up if the snoops are trying. They could monitor the phone lines for faxes if they wanted to and archive them too. But I don't think they do.

Of course a secure line or an encrypted connection, or irc, or many other little items will give you a way around most corporate or Government systems. They probably do the instant message retrivials and texting. That is easy.

Google Talk anyone? Or looky on my website.

And we can do like the spamers. Just send a pictue of the letter.

But back to reality! SO WHAT? These people were just brain storming, and already it is a conspiracy.

... and if I was a USA, and I heard for over two years that the WH and DOJ were considering changing some USAs, I would be sure to investigate the GOP! Good job insurance except maybe it didn't work.

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