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February 28, 2007

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FDR had an anti-room? Was it outside? I bet he really had an anteroom.

also:
invision => envision?
ministeries => ministries?
(justsayin)

Great post, Sara. There is no question that overhaul of our media system needs to come in hand with driving big corporated and organizational dollars from our campaigns. This is the type of discussion that needs to take root.

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sorry jeez. sensitive much?

everybody seems to be in love with Edward R Murrow. This is a problem because Murrow was an aberation in the news business

Joe Pulitzer is a better representative of the news business in America than Murrow ever will be

joe pulitzer and w r hearst represent the true nature of the main stream media, not Edward R Murrow

it would be nice if our journalists were paragons of nutrality, but that just ain't the case in the real world

news reporting has always been a partisan activity. self interest and profit margin have always been more important than truth, fairness, or nutrality

I'm ain't saying that journalism is ALWAYS corrupt, but the track record of America's journalism ain't too good (if you expect truth and accuracy)

remember the Maine, and how a war was spawned from a accidental explosion

American journalism is okay, if you don't expect too much beyond lies and distortions designed to serve somebody's self interest

There should at least be a National reporters union that certifies a reporter meets minimal standards of "fair and balanced." The standard should be high enough to stop Fox from calling its shows news programming. You know, the way the bar associations are supposed to work.

sorry Mel, Bar associations don't have protections directly enumerated in the First Amendment

the government is directly prohibited from regulating "The Free Press"

it's OUR job to regulate the news media

btw, it's only free if you own the press

Sara,

I think this answers your questions. But it's not short. First I am going to provide the history, then my proposal for a solution.

The Frontline last night made the point that city newspapers do most of the original reporting. As they decline original and investigative reporting are declining.

In the past they have been able to do original and investigative reporting because they made what an economist would call "Monopoly" profits. That is, their costs of production and distribution of the newpaper (70% of costs) has been a barrier to entry for competitors.

But the monopoly profits depended on wide distrubution, because the number of copies distributed determined the prise of advertisements. This is why newspapers have worked so hard over the last century to reduce the number of papers in each city to one and no more. One of the last stages in this process has often been a "joint production agreement" in which there are two editorial departments, one sales department and a single production and distribution system. This usually ended when (over the last three decades or so) the evening paper bought out the morning paper.

I have watched the Houston Post be bought out by the Houston Chronicle (which, interestingly was totally owned by a foundation while the Post had been sold by the family and gone public) and the Dallas Morning News (DMN) bought out the Dallas Times Herald. This latter occurred because a new owner borrowed a bunch of money at 13 to 15% interest to buy the Herald, and in the competitive market of Dallas, could never make more than about 10% profit. In 1991 or 1992 the DMN bought out the Times Herald and shut it down, then raised their own adverstising rates.

It is interesting that the DMN had purchased the local ABC TV outlet ICH 8) before the Congress passed a law stating that no one company could own both a major newspaper and TV outlet in the same market. It was by use of this symnergy that they overcame the Dallas Times Herald and shut them down.

Before 1960 a major city newspaper was a money machine. They had a monopoly on want ads, local for-sale classified ads, and department store advertisements. TV came in and took the car ads and a lot of the consumer product ads. The single city newspaper was a result of TV competition. But so was the closure of all the Newspaper foreign bureaus. I am not aware of a single Texas newspaper that hadn't shut down its foreign beureaus by 1970, with the possible exception of a Mexican beureau. (Those are all gone now, also, as far as I know.) The papers depended onthe AP and UPI wire services for foreign coverage, and for something really big they sent in a special reporting team.

But the TV news was setting the news reporting agenda after 1970, and once Viet Nam was over, who needed foreign news? With the news agenda set for local news, AP and UPI were in real trouble. UPI collapsed and was bought by the Unification Church (Yeah, the Moonies.)UPI, like the Washingon Times, is a loss-leader for the Moonies.

These events carry us up generally to the early 90's. Then the Internet appeared and began to steal revenue from the papers and TV. Craig's List has been a Newspaper-killer. So has Career-Builder.

Economically, Investigative reporting has been a result of monopoly profits. The News media that had a monopoly on advertisement revenues has offered investigative reporting because it was a barrier to entry to competitors that could not be easily afforded by a new entry to the industry. By offering investigative reporting, a news outlet could differentiate itself from the potential and actual competitors. This was one of the "unnecesary" costs that were eliminated when competition was replaced by a monopoly. But if some organization with a different technology could start offering local news and collect advertisement revenues (TV?) they were sufficiently differentiated from the newspapers so that the investigative reporting was unimportant.

Essentially, a paper is a bunch of paid advertisements that pay for the distrubution of the paper. See the "Greensheet" or whatever your local sales advertisement throwaway is. News attracts readers, and investigative journalism differentiates between news providers. The revenue is still the advertisements. But advertising rates are higher if the paper has higher circulation. The news is thrown in to increase circulation, so they can charge more in advertisement rates.

Unfortunately, better news <>= [is not equal to] better circulation.

Instead, Better News is directly related to a better reputation for useful news, which is loosely related to increased habitual reading of the newspaper [while competitive sources of news will be (probably more strongly) inversely related to habitual reading of the newspaper] and habitual reading of the paper is directly related to circulation.

Reputation for providing useful news will be strongly directly related to investigative journalism. But only over a long period of time. The stock market looks at almost nothing more than 90 days. If the stock isn't going up, then the solution is cut the costs that are most loosely related to the 90 day change in stock price. That means cut foreign bureaus first followed by investigative journalism. For anyone who has followed the history of newspapers, this is a given. [It is also totally clear to anyone who watched the "Frontline" number 3 last night and remembers the NY Stock Exchange woman who proposed that newspaper should focus entirely on in-depth local and super-local news.]

So the problem is the financial markets. They want newspapers to continue to throw off monopolistic profits like they did before 1960. Because of competition, they can't. Not and provide investigative journalism. Not as long as they are controlled by the stock market.

But notice that I pointed out in Houston that the Houston Chronicle was able to buy out and close down the (better) Houston Post. The Houston Post was on the stock market. The Houston Chronical was owned by a foundation. Guess who could plan (and spend) long term? It was the Chronicle.

The Frontline also pointed to the largest newspaper in Florida, the St. Petersburg Times. It is also owned by a foundation, and not subject to the short-term thinking of the stock market.

A newspaper that has the purpose of making money as first priority puts a low priority on news. But a newspaper owned by a foundation can be free to place news at a higher priority than can stock owned papers.

The problem with a foundation is that it can't go to the stock market for more cash to expand.

My proposal is that we (bloggers) create a set of local foundations to provide local news and operate on local advertisements. If we do it as blogs, we do not have the costs (70% of all newpaper costs) of production and distribution. We can compete with Craig's list by emphasizing local advertisements for local clientele, and we can do most of it with volunteer labor. [Key is that fact-checking and editing must be controlled in-house by expert journalists, probably paid.]

The volunteer labor would include jounalism students (organized by their teachers who control their actions and output) and other volunteers. The news would supplement the national news on NPR and Public TV, so those would be sources to coordinate with. Similar to Public TV and NPR, there could be pledge drives for contributions for capital and overhead expenses, and for support of investigative journalism.

A network of such foundations could contribute to State investigative journalism foundations. The various states could contribute to a similare national foundation base in Washington, D.C. That's similar to the funding of national shows on public TV and NPR. The local news foundations would own the investigative journalism foundations and provide the individuals on the Board of Directors for the investigative journalism foundations. [This would not be similar to the Public TV and NPR organizations which can be taken over by a government - as we have recently seen.]

You may have noticed from last night's Frontline that the LA Times is making a 20% per year return on invested funds. The problem is that the competition is increaseing, circulation is decreasin, as a result the revenue is decreasing, and the business side of the newspapers are trying to deal with the drop in stock prices by cutting costs.

The costs they cut are also the benefits we users of newspapers buy them for, so we are going to the competitors and their circulation is dropping even further. Newspapers aren't going to disappear, but they are getting more and more like the Greensheet. They can't afford investigative or international journalism any more.

But a 20% return to a news foundation is a high return. Those of us who want international bureaus and investigative journalism will contribute to a foundation to provide those services. [I REALLY want bureaus in South America, Central America and Mexico!]

The first step in this is to set up the local foundations. It requires legal work and the blogging software (like that of Huffington Post) followed by active organization of volunteers in each major metropolitan area. A few professional journalists (like Josh Marshall) who can edict and fact check need to be paid from day one. The investigative foundations should probably be set up very early on in each state capital and Washington, D.C.

The business side needs to also be built at the same time, so that donations are nothing more than start-up costs.

Anyway, that's my idea at the moment. Anyone who wants to get in touch with me and help set up a business plan, my email is jayray21@hotmail.com/.

Some of this is my ideas for local news and local advertisements on the internet, while a lot of it is from the way Josh Marshall has set up TPM and from the way National Public Radio and Public TV work.

Sorry about the spelling, have known since the third grade I would never master the skill. It got worse when as a young adult I studied two additional languages, Danish and German -- and when frustrated I tend to switch English Vowels.

The reason I emphasize Murrow is because his reporter role really emerged from his experience of doing important things, and not from an intent to be a Journalist. That infact was an accident. Paley was coaching him to be a producer and a corporate officer for CBS. But in 1937 when Hitler invaded Austria, Murrow had to go on-air as he was the only CBS voice in Vienna. He invented the roundtable over short-wave hook-ups, and the rest is history.

Right now on the net I think we are inventing the new Journalism -- and I post all this because I want blog readers, posters and commenters to think about what we are creating and how parts of it can be nurtured and grown. For instance, Almost every day I read Juan Cole's Informed Comment for "news" about the Near East. He's managed to organize quite a number of academics with deep knowledge of one or another part of the region, one or another speciality -- and taken together they do at least as well covering and interpreting events, providing background and all, as any major publication. They argue points in dispute, and their arguments are at least as valuable as some of the news reporting.

So how do you organize institutional and financial support for this sort of thing, if you start with the model of non-profit status, and perhaps something of our Foundation Model? I've long thought some of our real cultural riches are locked up in the Ivory Tower -- and believe me there are many there who would like to break out and get into discourse with a wider audience than the class room or seminar allows. You just have to make it legitimate, and be certain it is somewhat protected from Academic Career Revenge actions.

What Firedoglake is doing on the Libby Trial reminds me in some ways of the way we did Baseball before TV. When we just had Radio, they would put up big boards in town squares, and demo the field action according to Radio play by play descriptions. I "watched" two games of the 1948 World Series this way -- Cleveland Indians versus the Boston Braves in Cleveland's public square. Quite unlike TV baseball watching, it was totally participatory -- several thousand people with ideas about how plays should be called. Far more communal than flicking on your own TV, getting a cold one, and just watching. Cleveland's World Series in 1948 was just before TV from the East was available in Ohio -- thereafter, the public pretty much played little role in sports reporting. Firedoglake's live blogging has recaptured something of that community experience. So how do you "organize the future" so that is really preserved and nurtured? In my experience in virtually any major long term news event, people such as Marcia, Christy, Jane and many others who dig into the details will emerge as far more capable reporters and pundits than the official designated sort -- and will want to persist. So what institutions do we need to support this? What's the business model?

Sara,

Your proposal implies that local tv stations and local newspapers are the lynchpin. I am not so sure.

In general, the product that you want to affect is produced by different organiziations: network and cable news shows (for National and International news) and wire services. As far as tv goes, distribution of product is possible without the local stations through satellite and cable.

Even assuming that local foundations owning tv licenses could be competitors, what is the economic base for the local foundations? Distribution of network and syndicated product? But a refusal to carry network news? Or is your idea simply to supplement network news?

Even assuming that local foundations could form organizations to produce international and national news, they would need to pool resources -- as Rick points out.

I agree witht he goal of producing much better, and much different journalism (and a hell of a lot more lively than the PBS style -- if that is your goal), but I wonder if your proposal is the most effective and direct way to do so.

Instead, organize some money, build the organizations, the routines, the staff, and the news product -- and then distribute it (with ads to keep the non-profit going) over cable and satellite.

Also, money to make computerized video histories (with maps, pictures, animations, etc.) to make school work more engaging would both produce useful teaching tools and build a training ground for intellectuals with a talent for presenting current events.

As far as the Fairness Doctrine goes, its goals were diverse viewpoints but, except in high-drama exceptional circumstances -- like southern stations blacking out the CBS News if Dan Rather covered a civil rights march -- the Fairness Doctrine was not effective. Instead, the Fairness Doctrine was an excuse for local managers not to present any offbeat opinion or news for fear of becoming unbalanced. Anyway, if you want something to achieve what you think the Fairness Doctrine should have achieved, then you need to start from scratch. Also, assume you need a statute because there is no hope of the Fairness Doctrine coming back administratively. (Court challenge would get it struck down with this Court.) A statute might survive court challenge, or might not.

In summary, I suggest that you organize liberal money to make foundations to show the world how it should be done. Compete with the jackasses, instead of trying to engineer the removal of the jackasses from American media and American culture. I think that is a bridge too far, as a practical matter. Furthermore, I am not trust that there is ANY GROUP that I trust to be the guardians of public information.

Sara,

I hadn't seen your recent post when I commented a few minutes ago.

The latter post is something that I emphatically agree with, and I have made comments and suggestions (mostly ignored) along those lines at MYDD and elsewhere.

For example, at Agonist, I urged Sean Paul to set up a network of people interested in Afghanistan to produce interesting and scholarly video information. And I urged the economists there to organize efforts to develop popular information.

The KOS have a project to cover Congressional committees, but they want to do it on the fly with volunteers. That has perhaps produced a consolidated collection of mass media articles, but nothing more. True coverage -- the type we need and don't have -- would require institutional support.

I have suggested a foundation that would rotate through college kids for a couple semesters to build websites making the Federal budget, and budget choices, easy to understand. I hope such an organization could build to more general coverage of Congress.

Anyway, my final thought is that I agree with something you wrote a few weeks back. The culture and end product of our journalism is a function of their daily routines, and those routines, in turn, are set by largely economic considerations.

We need new people, new routines, and a new culture for organizations with more sophistocated and public spirited goals.

Sara,

I think that my above post lays out a business model that fits what you are looking for.

I'm getting closer to a decent business plan. The business plan is the first step, grants to start setting it up is a second step, and the software to set up the web presence is the third step. [Scoop? What does Ariana Huffington use? What would Kos suggest?]

After that, get the people to volunteer to start the foundations and hit up the blogosphere for more funding. From right now, I'd expect something next Fall.

Succesful operation has to follow that, and then the system could be grown.

And I don't have a clue how to fit political news and such into this right now.

The key to a foundation is that providing news can be set as a higher priority than meeting financial goals. That's not to say financial goals are not highly important. The key is that financial goals are not set by investors, and the purpose of the foundations is to provide investigative journalism and the most significant news the readers want.

JWP,

I concur. Look at my proposal above. It can be done.

Richard

RickB -- Your business model solution is very attractive. Needs discussion particularly including the local bloggers who many of us are reading, and are super hungry for ideas as to how they can organize and keep doing their thing, but at the same time participate in a plan as to where to go.

While I realize that much that has gone into blogging is essentially volunteer work, we need to understand that College Students these days graduate with big loans to pay back, and many of them want to marry, buy a house, get a decent car and have kids. That costs money, and thus volunteer may not be something to be advocated. So I think the business model has to anticipate normal middle class income requirements, but it does not need to plan on 13 million a year for Couric at CBS.

Another message in Frontline #3 was how bloggers had essentially screwed the mainstream press on selected issues. I was very much a participant in the Lott-Thurmond matter, largely because I know the details of the Hubert Humphrey Sunshine Speech, delivered at the 48 Democratic Convention, and how it wrought the walk-out of the Dixiecrats from the convention, and how it repositioned the Democratic Party on Race. Driving the racists out of the party was intended -- it had long been planned by FDR, and it was FDR who recruited Hubert to initiate the movement. Caro captures part of that in "Master of the Senate" (vol. 3 on Lyndon) -- but it was only the possibility of the blog world that allowed me to lay out the evidence for an interpretation of 1948, that was necessary background to what happened to Senator Lott. Otherwise I would have been limited to publishing my knowledge in an American History or American Studies Journal, hardly likely to be read by anyone outside the academy.

My concern is that any business model be openly invitational to anyone with specialized knowledge as the flow of events suggests the need for better information and analysis.

I actually think we can create a much better world if we know what we are about. We need the finance and business model side -- and we need the content side. Above all, we need to discuss.

JWP,

News collection is one problem. News distribution is a totally separate problem. But collection is the more difficult problem. It has to be institutionalized.

Once the news is collected, it becomes a commodity that can either be sold or can be used internally to the foundation. That is where the connection between news and revenue starts. Not at the collection level. Local news can drive local advertising. But foreign and investigative journalism are add-on values and must be considered on a much longer term. They build reputation and readership, not current advertisement revenues. They build the social habit of keeping up with the news to avoid being surprised by something big and important, but unusual.

The problem right now is that news collection is a cost that can easily be cut, and that good news collection cannot be directly related to the bottom line of the corporate organizations driven by quarterly profits. Good news collection demands the creation of an institution that has the sole purpost of gathering foreign and investigative news, and has a lonber term view of its operation than just each 90 days.

The accountants have to reign in an organization designed to produce profits, But in an organization designed to produce news accounts cannot drive it. Cost control is important, but News collection is more important.

Local foundations can gather and distribute local news with the restrictions of local advertisement. Foreign and investigative news can network to gather and distribut those elements of news, and if they don't succeed, they cease to be foundations. But as foundations, they can make long-term plans and not be tied to the demands of the financial market because their function is news production and distribution, not creation and distribution of profits.

Rick B, thanks for a really excellent content. IMHO, a graphic representation of what you expressed so eloquently is available in FDL's (and tnh's) site statistics. The Libby indictment and his trial are huge spikes in readership for both blogs. Both blogs made the day to day investment in educating their readers about the issues. No one, however, appears to have found a satisfactory revenue model to fairly compensate the bloggers for their investment.

Apologies Rick B, my comment above was based solely on your last comment. I did not know there was so much of value that I had not read above it.

"Sorry about the spelling, have known since the third grade I would never master the skill."

Sara, please do NOT worry about it. Steinbeck could not spell either. As you so ably demonstrate, the ability to spell has nothing to do with the ability to reason and write with great clarity. I know I speak for many in saying how grateful we are for your posts.

Sara,

You are correct about the need to provide professional salaries to professional people. My sugestion for voluteers is to use that position the way current newspapers and TV use Interns. Except that the Interns start earlier in their education and get the advantages of training from professionals even as early as High School.

The career progresions are yet to be worked out. But I'd think that people who have interned at a local news blog could easily parley that into better paid jobs. Even directly from High School, as a friend of mine did in the early 60's.

As for the experts, many of them could function as Stringers, getting paid per article. I have no doubt that Creators Syndicate or its equivalent could syndicate opinion pieces. The question would come down to the editors as to what to buy, and I suspect that editors in a news producting institution would be a lot less likely to buy Michele Malkine or Coulter, and a lot more likely to buy Krugman. People react to the goals of the organization a lot more than the Libertarians will admit.

I can also see bloggers with decent reputations selling their blogs to such foundations, or if they can't get paid for it, making commercial agreements that increase their traffic to where advertisement helps them.

I should remind you that many academics desperate for publications actually pay for a journal to publish their papers. There are journals that exist just on those funds. [Of course, I'd never publish in such a journal (unless Tenure depended on it. But I don't teach.)]

The nice thing about publishing online is that the cost of length disappears as a problem. All one of these foundations has to do is agree to publish someone, provide links, and see what happens. Printing and distribution do not prevent such publication. Good ideas can be edited and promoted.

As Josh Marshall pointed out in his interview with Frontline his advantage in distribution and publication allows him to actually be in business.

Publishing is a large business ranging from Books to magazines to newspapers to TV to radio amd even to the Greemsheet and online publishing. The people who enter one area can easily move to another. But if I were a high school student and published in an online journal that everyone looked at for local advertisements and local sports, I'd be preening for days. And unlike the High School Paper, there would be room to publish news on Band, JROTC, Scouts, Chess Club (My favorite) and all kinds of other stories. Maybe even stories on who got the highest grades in high school. [Ever see that? I haven't.]

In short, the pay structure could accomodate professionals, while training journalists for all areas. But the pay structure depends on the revenue structure, and that is after the business plan is more detailed.

Yuck. Way past time for bed.

G'nite.

"There are journals that exist just on those funds. [Of course, I'd never publish in such a journal (unless Tenure depended on it. But I don't teach.)"

Shows how much I am out of touch. My last problem was with an old co-author of a Modern Language Association Conference Paper who handed my work off to a NYTimes Critic, who published it nearly word for word under his bi-line. Good lord, I was the one who did the paper, got my department to pay for my going to MLA and all the rest. After I noticed that, and discussed it with a friend who is a copyright attorney, the idiot had the nerve to call me and ask for a blurb on his book that had much of my research in it without much attribution. I prefer to write on the net as Sara. Now if you have something to say about either Marc Blitzstein or Brecht -- I may be all over you. Anyone want to know about those trips to E. Germany under the sponsorship of the Culture Ministry -- well that is how things got done back in the ole cold war days. I got what I wanted without giving the Stasi one damn thing. (oh -- I gave them lots of stuff already published that, if they read, they would have known.)

Anyhow I rather conceive the problem of how news would be gathered around the various experiences I had over the years in E. Germany and other parts of E. Europe. One might ask the same question of how it would be done today in Pakistan or Afghanistan -- but it it the same problem. How do you position someone, train someone (languages and all that) so they actually can report something critical? I don't like the current model which is essentially put a Neon sign around your neck that says TV or PRESS -- but the investment in deeper reporting is profound. Look at how little person to person on the ground reporting we are getting these days from either Pakistan or Afghanistan. Part of what we want to do should enable this.


Rick,

I think that intrepid volunteer bloggers, or even, as you suggest, groups of intrepid volunteer bloggers, can help to improve our public debate. But the work of bloggers now is essentially derivative -- take main stream reporting, and then comment upon it. Valuable. But limited.

Your proposal for better local reporting is ok, but I doubt that it addresses the key problems.

For perspective, I think it is important to examine the ultimate goal. In my view, the ultimate goal is to provide information to the public in a fashion so that folks can understand their choices in specific, mundane terms.

Part of that job is to strip public debate of misleading abstractions. These emotional rhetorical flourishes distract the public from the nature of the choices before them. Bloggers can work on that -- though they often substitute one emotional prism for another.

But another part of the job is more fundamental. What confronts us? What options do we have?

The answer to this job is not simply journalism, it is education in a broader sense. Some information can be provided on the spur of the moment. But for the public to understand and appreciate even accurate and important information, they have to have a certain baseline education already.

Related, you have to make the education FUN, over the longterm. This can be done, but it requires creativity. Video. And money.

I doubt there is a single silver bullet for the challenge. Instead, the problem must be attacked from many angles.

Video textbooks is an idea that I have dreamed about for 25 years. Video of a 17th century manufacturing facility. Graphics showing the patterns of trade and finance and war that led to the rise of Rothschild fiancial empire. A thousand subjects, derived from fascinating books but put into a format that would be fun and accessible by people that will never read those books.

Highschool textbooks. Video texts for continuing education classes that could be an important social network for lonely folks.

The college kid idea I mention was not for volunteers. My idea was that a consortium of universities should pool resources and set up an educational program that would teach kids and also provide valuable information.

Our problem is not just uncovering information. It is organizing information already available, and presenting it in a fair and interesting way. We need to build institutions that are organized for the purpose of doing this. The people must be highly educated, trained to the mission, creative on top of educated, and PAID.

I think that we need to return to "objective reporting" which as I understand it used to be the norm that was taught in the Journalism Schools.

I am afraid the outlets least capable of objective reporting are the blogs. By their nature they are contentious.

It is widely reported that newspapers are losing readers, that internet news sources are gaining readers. What is not so widely reported is that people are spending less actual time reading the news each day.

And now for a personal observation. I much prefer to read the "paper." It is quicker. This has nothing to do with the connection speed.
You can browse the paper easier, and select what you want easier.

I find that for the most information on any subject the internet is far better.

So the result is we know more, and more about less and less, instead of like in the old days knowing a lot about many things.

In a way that is the definition of a scientist. So we have all (many of us at least) become scientists about the Plame case.

JWP -- In many ways, I look at Juan Cole's blog, Informed Comment, as an evolving example of what might be possible. Over several years he has pulled together Academics with considerable expertise in Near and Middle East matters, language skills, and a real interest in projecting their analysis beyond the walls of the academy -- and they do a very valuable job on many levels. They review the Arab Language press of the day on current matters, they critique US mainstream press, administration positions, and they do it all against a highly detailed knowledge about Iraq -- or other parts of the Middle East. You want to know how historic tribal disputes play into events of the day -- they will provide that information, and if it is a disputed matter, you will get the argument. I think it an interesting model that is of course still evolving.

But Cole is a pretty unique academic in that he does want a larger audience than his own academic collegues and students, and he has gotten huge push-back from some academic quarters as well as outside interest groups simply because he is so public. Though recruited for the Middle East History Chair at Yale last year -- it didn't come through because of outside interest group pushing back at Yale because of disagreements on Palestine/Israel matters. (Cole is tenured at Michigan so no essential harm). Cole himself has argued that in controversial areas it is extremely difficult for non-tenured academics to publish on blogs, unless they make great efforts to do so under pen names. It would be great if some of the professional societies would take up the question of publishing for a larger audience as a way of making the case that expertise should not be locked away in the Ivory Tower -- but that would be a huge project.

But if it could be done, I suspect it might look like a cooperative, perhaps to some degree self selected, but with access to funding for clearly needed reporting projects. Distribution might be more like Associated Press.

Here's an example of how bad the situation is. I had a conversation with a colleague today. He's a political scientist, used to write for TNR before it was taken over by Marty Peretz, and is generally well informed. He's 66 or 67. My generation. So he comes into my office to chitchat about the Libby trial. I said, the Jury was still out, but in my view the Government had an ironclad case against him, and that Libby had not gone on the stand. He said, oh, that's because the government case was weak and they didn't have to put him on the stand. I explained the problem of Libby's testifying and Cheney's testifying under oath. I then mentioned Brewster-Jennings. He thought it was a person. As soon as I explained it was a CIA cover he understood perfectly.

Here's the point. This is a liberal guy -- a bit conservative because of his age, but liberal -- who gets his news from the MSM. He isn't computer savvy and doesn't trust blogs. So this is what a guy who is basically on our side thinks. Imagine what the unwashed public think. The Press is killing our nation.

Sara,

I am also a big fan of Cole's blog. And he has gotten on tv more than most.

But, essentially, that is still a print operation.

The blogosphere does not do video. It is important to communicate in video.

It is somewhat similar to the Encyclopedia movement. All the info was in Latin. Not available to the general public. So scholars got together and translated the info into French.

Info exists in the world today. But it is not translated into the popular language of the day: tv.

For example, the Afghanistan War. There were a few people with pointers in front of maps who would point and say the name of an ethnic group. Same silly 90 second routine, over and over.

That's not video. There should be grpahics on maps, showing migrations of people over time. And some video representations of key aspects of social and economic life at different times. And overlay maps showing the push of political events outside the borders. A cinema of history.

That cannot be done on the spot. But a pretty good job could be done in a week, and you would have 22 minutes of programming to fill a 30 minute slot. You could explain something.

No one tried it. Worse, no one ever even THOUGHT of such a program. Because it is not what tv journalism does. No one is trained to it.

When I looked into it 25 years ago, do you know what the "research" department of a network news show was? Someone who cut clippings out of newspapers and made files. BA preferred, but not, I bet, required, if you had the right connections.

The lack of imagination is astounding. And the biggest hurdle.

Some small steps, probably outside the mainstream, are probably needed first. Laboratories for people to expand their imagination, and develop skills (and audiences) away from commercial pressures.

That is why I like the college program idea so much. Give them a discrete task at first: understand and put in accessible form info about the Federal budget. Through experience, their imagination may develop.

Sara,

I overlooked your comment about professional societies. I could not agree more. It is scandalous that that academics are content to talk to each other and ignore the public.

If we put $5 billion in trust for video histories (showing history from various points of view in the same video histories; not as propaganda), and assume only 5 percent interest that could be dispersed per year for projects, that would be 250 million dollars per year for grants.

250 million per year buys a lot of historians. maybe all of them

JWP -- I think you are describing the Ken Burns treatment of the Civil War or Baseball which were profoundly effective. He slow moved through still pictures, graphics, mixed in with witnesses and readers.

I certainly agree that video has to be considered. Have you watched any of Al Gore's Digital Cable Channel, it gives independent videographers a place to display their wares, connect with the audience on the net. Pieces that are popular or raise controversial issues remain in rotation over time. Young Videographers have done outstanding work on aspects of Katrina's aftermath. The channel is digital only -- up in the high numbers -- called "Current". From what I can tell it is building a loyal community. It can't do the "breaking news" thing -- but it is much better than any News Operation in terms of following things in depth over time.

Sara,

Interesting. I have not seen that. Is it on DirecTV?

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Toshiba Satellite A45-S120 Laptop Computer---$350
Toshiba Satellite M35X-S149 Laptop Computer---$400
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Toshiba Satellite P35-S609 Laptop Computer---$850
Toshiba Qosmio F15-AV201 Laptop Computer----$700
Toshiba Portege M200 Laptop Computer------$500

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Pioneer DJ Effector - Red-----------$350.00
Pioneer Pro DJ Mixer----------------$400.00
Pioneer System Case (CA-CMX5).......$450.00
Pioneer CDJ-800MK2 Digital Vinyl Turntable=--$520.00
Pioneer Dual Rackmount CD Player--------$600.00
Pioneer Pro DJ Mixer (Black)-------------$720.00
Pioneer Rack mount pro DJ mixer---------$780.00
Pioneer Pro DJ Mixer (Silver)------------$710.00
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Pioneer CDJ-1000MK3 Digital Vinyl Turntable--$900.00
Pioneer 96Khz / 24 bit digital mixer.-----$960.00
Pioneer Flat Speakers (ea.)-------------$980.00
Pioneer Professional DVD Turntable-------$1500.00
Pioneer Professional DVD Turntable-------$1800.00
Pioneer Pro DJ 96Khz 24bit Mixer---------$1,600.00
Pioneer Professional DVD Turntable------$1,720.00
Pioneer Professional DVD Turntable------$1,100.00
Pioneer Djm-800 4 Channel Dj Mixer W/midi---$900.00
Pioneer DJM-400 Professional DJ Mixer------$300.50
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02 XDA Atom ........ $160
02 XDA NEO ........ $180
02 XDA mini S ....... $200
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02 XDA IIi ......... $130
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Nokia N98........$280usd
Nokia N99........$300USD
Nokia N80.......$160USD
Nokia N93.......$160USD
Nokia N93i.......$200USD
Nokia N92.......$170USD
Nokia N95........$200USD
Nokia N91.......$150USD
Nokia N90.......$140USD
Nokia N70.......$130USD
Nokia N73.......$160USD
Nokia N76 ........$ 180USD
Nokia N71.......$130USD
Nokia 8800......$200USD
Nokia 7710.......$130USD
Nokia 7610.......$110usd
Nokia 9300......$120USD
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SIDEKICK II..........$100
SIDEKICK II MISTER CARTOON...... $130
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Motorola razor v3.........$100usd
Motorola razor v3 pink edition....$120usd
Motorola v3X...................$140usd
Motorola V3i.............$100
Motorola V3c..........$110
Motorola MPX300.,...$120usd
Motorola U6........$120

Nextel i880.........$130usd
Nextel i930.........$130usd
Nextel i870.........$100usd
Nextel i860.........$80usd
Nextel i90c.........$75USD
Nextel i95cl........$90USD

Sony Ericsson p990.....$150usd
Sony Ericsson p910i....$130usd
Sony Ericsson w900i....$130usd
Sony Ericsson K750i....$110usd
Sony Ericsson k800i....$120usd
Sony Ericsson k700i....$100usd
Sony Ericsson W800i....$120usd
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Nintendo Wii...................$150usd
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Xbox 360.......................$120usd
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Playstation 3..................$200usd
Playstation 2..................$120usd

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Rim Blackberry 7230g...........................$135
BlackBerry 7290......................................$140
6710 Blackberry RIM.............................$110
Speck Blackberry 7100T.........................$120
Color 7520 RIM Blackberry....................$100

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Apple iphone 4gb...........$170
Apple iphone 2gb...........$130
Dopod 838 pro .............$200

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Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player...$40USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A....$50USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano..................$60USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano...................$70USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe................$100USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe................$140USD
Apple 20GB iPod 20GB iPod .............$50USD
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Sony VAIO PCG-GRX7001 Laptop Computer---$900
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Sony Cybershot Digital Camera 512M Pro Duo .... $200

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Nikon Coolpix S50 Digital
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Nikon D50 Body Only Digital
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Olympus Evolt E-500 (Double Lens Kit) Digital
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Olympus Evolt E-510 (14-42mm) Digital
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Fuji FinePix Z3 Digital
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Fuji FinePix S5100 Digital
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Sony Cyber-shot DSC-W200 Digital
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Sony Alpha DSLR-A100 Digital
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Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-M1 Digital
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Sony Mavica MVC-CD350 Digital
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Sony Cyber-Shot DSC-V3 Digital
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Panasonic Lumix DMC-L1 Digital
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Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ50K Digital
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Pioneer CDJ-1000 CD Player........$450
Pioneer CMX-3000 Twin CD Player...$700
Pioneer CDJ-800 CD Player.........$300
Pioneer CDJ-1000MK2...............$450
Pioneer CDJ-200 MP3 CD Player ....$130
Pioneer CDJ-800MK2................$400
Pioneer CDJ-1000mk2...............$500
Pioneer CDJ-1000MK3...............$500
Pioneer CDJ-500 CD-Player.........$500

Pioneer DJM-1000 ................$600
Pioneer DJM-800..................$500
Pioneer DJM-400..................$300
Pioneer DJM-300(s) Mixer ........$100
Pioneer DJM-600 Mixer ...........$500
Pioneer DJM-3000 19" Mixer ......$300
Pioneer DJM-600-S Mixer..........$600
Pioneer DJM-909 Battle Mixer.....$600
Technics SL-1200MK2.................$600
Technics SL-DZ 1200..................$300
Technics SL-1210M5G Pro Turntable.. .$350
Technics SL-1210MK2 Turntable $150
Technics SL-1210MK5 Pro Turntable ...$250

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Nokia N93.......$230USD
Nokia e90.......$380usd
Nokia 770.......$350ussd
Nokia 5600.......$290usd
Nokia vertu signature...$560usd
Nokia vertu acent......$700usd
Nokia N800.......$250USD
Nokia N76.......$200USD
Nokia N93i.......$270usd
Nokia 8800 sirocco.......200usd
Nokia N80.......$160USD
Apple Iphone 8gb...........250usd
Lg Prada.....300usd
Sony Ericsson w900i....$190usd
Sony Ericsson W800i....$150usd
sony Ericsson w950.....$220usd
Sony Ericsson p910i....$165usd
Treo 700p...............$200usd
Treo 650...............$160usd
Nextel i960.........$170usd
Motorola razor v3....................$130usd
Motorola v31 dolce and gabbana........$350usd
Motorola razor v3 pink edition.......$130usd
Motorola v3X.........................$140usd
Motorola MPX300.,....................$150usd
Motorola V3i.........................$150usd
Motorola L7..........................$140USD
Qtek 9100.....$185
Qtek s110.....$190
Qtek s100.....$180
Qtek 9000......$250
Qtek 9600.....$240
Samsung D800...........$210USD
Samsung D820...........$220USD
Sansung D500........
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SIDEKICK 3...............$200USD
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Apple 30 GB iPod Video............110USD
Apple 80 GB ipods Video...........220USD

CAR SYSTEMS""
TomTom Go 910...................180usd
Pioneer Avic Z1................ 400usd

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X box 360 Premium console ... ..200usd
Nintendo wii.....................200usd
Ps2.............................160usd
Playstation 3 20GB..............200usd
Playstation 3 60GB..............450usd

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Sony Vaio...................700usd
Allien Ware...............400usd
Dell Xps M2010.............500usd
Dell Xps M1710.............450usd

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Canon ixus 700 digital camera..................$200
Canon ixus 750 digital camera..................$160
Canon ixus i zoom digital camera (jet black)...$210
Canon ixus i zoom digital camera (Sahara)......$200
Canon power shot s80 digital camera............$220
Casio exilim ex-s500 digital camera (orange, ).$230
Digital blue qx5 digital microscope............$170
Fuji film finepix f10 digital camera...........$150
Nikon d2x digital camera (body only)...........$140
Olympus fe-100 digital camera..................$150

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Acer Ferrari 3400LMi Notebook ...$500
Acer Ferrari 3000LMi - Athlon XP-M...$480
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Apple Powerbook G4 1.67ghz Drive Bluetooth 17"Screen..$650
Apple PowerBook G4 - PPC G4 1.5..$600
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Apple iBook G4 - PPC G4 ..$500
Apple iBook Notebook M8861LL/A ..$320
Apple iBook Notebook 14.1"...$390


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Panasonic 3CCD Camcorder = $600
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Xbox live silver membership
play station 1... $120
play station 2 ...$130
play station 3 (60gb) ...$230
x_box 360....$200
GARMIN 396...$150

Apple Ipod Nano 2GB...$60
Apple Ipod Nano 4GB.....$80
Apple Ipod video 30GB.....$150
Apple Ipod video 60GB.....$200


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NOKIA 6230i for........$140usd
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QTEK 8300 $145
Qtek 8310 $155
Qtek 8500 $165
Qtek 8600 $225
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Nokia N93....$250USD
Nokia N92....$200USD
Nokia N83....$175USD
Nokia N91....$180USD
Nokia N90....$170USD
Nokia N76....$250USD
Nokia N75 ...$200USD
Nokia N70....$150USD
Nokia N71....$155USD
Nokia N72....$160USD
Nokia N73....$165USD
Nokia 7360...$165USD
Nokia 7380...$175USD
Nokia 7370...$170USD
Nokia 8800...$140USD
Nokia 8801...$145usd
Nokia N80....$160USD
Nokia 7710...$145USD
Nokia 7610...$120usd
Nokia 9300...$145USD
Nokia 9500...$170USD

Sony Ericsson w900i..$140usd
Sony Ericsson W800i..$135usd
sony Ericsson w700...$130usd
sony Ericsson w600i..$125usd
sony Ericsson w300...$120usd
sony Ericsson w950...$160usd
Sony Ericsson p990i..$145usd
Sony Ericsson m600i..$170usd
Sony Ericsson p990...$140usd
Sony Ericsson p910i..$125usd
Motorola Phone
Mitac MIO 8930...$280usd
Motorola razor v3...$130usd
Motorola razor v3 pink edition....$130usd
Motorola MPX30....$150usd
Motorola V3i..$150usd
Motorola L7...$140USD
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Samsung x810 for....$200usd
S amsung z700 for ...$260usd
Samsung p860 for.....$260usd
Samsung p850 for....$220usd
Samsung d500 for....$150usd
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NEXTEL i860 AT JUST.......$100usd
Treo 650......$130usd
Treo 600.....$120usd
Treo 700w.....$140usd
Apple Ipod
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Apple 40 GB iPod photo.........40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ..40 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A.....60 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ....55 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A....50 USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player..40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A....45 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano........50 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nan....60 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe.....110 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe....150 USD

TomTom GO 910 Portable GPS Navigation.......$200
TomTom GO 710 Portable GPS Navigation......$180
Navman iCN 510 32MB Vehicle GPS Navigator.....$200
Garmin Nuvi 360 Pocket Vehicle GPS Navigator.....$250
Garmin Nuvi 680 Pocket Vehicle GPS Navigator.......$450
Garmin Nuvi 660 Pocket Vehicle GPS Navigator.....$400
Garmin Nuvi 610 Pocket Vehicle GPS Navigator....$380
GAMES
Playstation3...$350
playstation2 ...$120
Nitendo wii ..$250
Xbox3600...$200

Pioneer CDJ-100s CD Player
Pioneer CDJ-1000 CD Player
Pioneer CMX-3000 Twin CD Player
Pioneer CDJ-800 CD Player
Pioneer CDJ-1000MK2
Pioneer CDJ-200 MP3 CD Player
Pioneer CDJ-800MK2
Pioneer CDJ-1000mk2
Pioneer CDJ-1000MK3
Pioneer CDJ-500 CD-Player

Pioneer DJM-1000
Pioneer DJM-800
Pioneer DJM-400
Pioneer DJM-300(s) Mixer
Pioneer DJM-600 Mixer
Pioneer DJM-3000 19" Mixer
Pioneer DJM-600-S Mixer
Pioneer DJM-909 Battle Mixer
Technics SL-1200MK2
Technics SL-DZ 1200
Technics SL-1210M5G Pro Turntable..
Technics SL-1210MK2 Turntable $150
Technics SL-1210MK5 Pro Turntable


Pioneer EFX-500
Pioneer EFX-1000 Pro-Effector
Pioneer EFX-500-R
Pioneer DVJ-X1 DVD Player
Pioneer DVJ-1000
Pioneer VSW-1 Video Switcher
Pioneer DMP-555 MultiMedia Player

SPEAKER
2 JBL PRX515 (15" 2 - Way Self-Powered Sound)
2 JBL PRX518S (18" Self Powered Subwoofer
System)

contact us via....digitechelectronics@hotmail.com
digitechelectronics@asia.com digitechelectronicsltd@yahoo.com

GTI ELETRONICS SHOP
PALM GROOVE WEST LONDON UK.

Rio Bobby
Sales Manager
Tel: +447045758327
E-mail: rio_riobobby@yahoo.com

Apple Iphone for $300usd
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano--$50
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano--$60
Apple 30 GB iPod Video--$110
Apple 60 GB iPod Video--$150
Apple 80 GB IPod Video--$180
Playstation Game List:
PLAYSTATION 1...............$120 USD
PLAYSTATION 2...............$150 USD
PLAYSTATION 3...............$200 USD
XBox Game List:
Xbox 360 Core System -- $163
Xbox 360 Prenium pack --$190
Xbox 360 Platinum Bundle Console -- $155
Intec G8600 Xbox 360 9.2 TFT Screen--$85 .
Nokia Price List:
NOKIA N97...........$350 USD
NOKIA N95...........$300 USD
NOKIA N93 ..........$270 USD
NOKIA N92 ..........$245 USD
NOKIA 8800 SIROCCO.....$240 USD
NOKIA E90 COMMUNICATOR $230 USD
NOKIA N90 ..........$200 USD
NOKIA N91 ..........$220 USD
NOKIA 9500 ..........$195 USD
NOKIA N73 ..........$190 USD
NOKIA N80 ..........$180 USD
NOKIA N72...........$170 USD
NOKIA N70 ..........$160 USD


MOTOROLA A1200..........$200 USD
MOTOROLA L6 ..............$150 USD
MOTOROLA V3 RAZ ........$160 USD
MOTOROLA L2 ..............$130 USD
MOTOROLA RAZR V3xx ....$140 USD
MOTOROLA RAZR Maxx ....$160 USD
MOTOROLA Q AT ..........$150 USD
MOTOROLA RAZR V3i ......$170 USD
MOTOROLA RIZR ...........$140 USD
Samsung Price List:
SAMSUNG P920 ..........$170 USD
SAMSUNG D900 ..........$150 USD
SAMSUNG P300 ..........$160 USD
SAMSUNG P900 ..........$140 USD
SAMSUNG D870 ..........$170 USD
SAMSUNG D840 ..........$160 USD
SAMSUNG D830 ..........$140 USD
Sony Ericsson Price List:
SONY ERICSSON W1000 (UNLOCK)$280 USD
SONY ERICSSON P800(UNLOCK)--$180 USD
SONY ERICSSON P900(UNLOCK)--$200 USD
SONY ERICSSON P980i(UNLOCK).$200 USD
SONYERICSSON P990 ..........$210 USD
SONY ERICSSON W800i.........$140 USD
Blackberry Price List:
BlackBerry 8800 $150
Blackberry 8700v $140
Blackberry 8700r $145
Blackberry 8700g $150
Blackberry 8700c $155
Blackberry 8707g $140
Blackberry 8703e $145
Blackberry 8705g $140

I-Mate Price list:
I-Mate JAM 128MB Unlocked....$160
I-Mate JAMin Unlocked....$170
I-Mate JASJAR Unlocked....$200
I-Mate K-Jam Unlocked....$180
I-Mate Smartflip Unlocked....$170
I-Mate SP5 Unlocked....$110
I-Mate SP5m Unlocked....$100
Qtek Price List:
Qtek 8100 Tri-Band Camera Music Unlocked GSM Phone
White.....$125
QTEK 8300 GSM MOBILE SMARTPHONE.....$135
Qtek 8310 Unlocked Quadband GSM Phone....$145
Qtek 8500 Unlocked SmartPhone.....$145
Qtek 8600 Unlocked GSM SmartPhone....$200
Qtek 9000 3G Pocket PC Unlocked GSM Phone.....$280
Qtek 9100 Smartphone / Pocket PC Unlocked GSM
Phone....$190
Qtek 9600 Unlocked GSM SmartPhone.....$230
Qtek G100 GPS PPC and Pharos Ostia GPS Software(US
Maps)....$185
QTEK S200 GSM/GPRS Pocket PC Unlocked Quadband
Phone.....$165

TomTom Go Price List:
TOM TOM GO 910 $290USD
TOM TOM GO 510 $250USD
Tom Tom Go 700 GPS Navigator $270usd
TomTom GO 710 $270usd
TomTom GO 500 $240usd
TomTom GO 300 $200usd
Laptop Price List:
SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$400
SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP-----------------$370
SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$350
SONY VAIO A397XP-- 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP----------------$400
SONY VAIO T370P/L-- 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP PRO----------$300
SONY VAIO T370P/L-- 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP----------------$320
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$280
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP---------------$320
SONY VAIO B1VP-- 40GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP PRO-------------$200
SONY VAIO LAPTOP-- VGN-A117S----------------------------------$260
SONY VAIO LAPTOP-- VGN-S1XP------------------------------------$410
SONY VAIO LAPTOP-- VGN PCGK21 5Z----------------------------$330
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK - WI-FI-- GPRS-- BLUETOOTH-- 1GHZ (RED)------$310
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK - WI-FI-- GPRS-- BLUETOOTH-- 1GHZ (BLUE)-----$300
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK - WI-FI-- GPRS-- BLUETOOTH-- 1GHZ (YELLOW)--$250
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK - WI-FI-- GPRS-- BLUETOOTH-- 1GHZ (SILVER)---$300
TOSHIBA TECRA M2 40GB-- PM 1.5GHZ-- 14INCH-- WIFI-- DVD-CDRW----$300
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP-- P20-102--------------------------$360
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP-- P10-803-----------------------------$320
TOSHIBA PORTEGE R100 40GB-- 512MB-- XP PRO------------------$240
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP-- M30-742-------------------------------$250
APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.3GHZ COMBO WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY-$400
APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY--$300
APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 17 INCH DISPLAY--$320

HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZD7145EA-----------------------------------$320
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZD7255EA-----------------------------------$300
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZX5151EA PHOTOSMART-------------------$300
HP PAVILION LAPTOP-- ZT3215EA----------------------------------$280
Dell Latitude D610..................------------------------- $460
Dell Latitude D510..................-------------------------- $320
Dell Inspiron 9300..................--------------------------- $530

LG Plasma Televisions
LG 60PY2DR 60 in. Plasma tv (timer)................600 usd
LG 50px5d 50-in Hdtv Plasma Tv (timer).............600usd
LG 23LC1RB 23" LCD TV HD monitor(timer)..................320usd
LG 42PX4D 42-In. HDTV Plasma TV (timer)......................400usd
LG 50px4dr 50-in Plasma (timer).......................400usd
Sony Televisions 46" Sony Bravia LCD Television -1080p..............$1800usd
Sony Bravia XBR KDL-V40XBR1 - LCD TV - 40" ...........$1200usd

GTI ELETRONICS SHOP
PALM GROOVE WEST LONDON UK.

Rio Bobby
Sales Manager
Tel: +447045758327
E-mail: rio_riobobby@yahoo.com

We offer the sales of all major brands of Mobilephones ranging from Nokia, Samsung, Siemens, Sony Ericsson, Imate, Motorola,Laptops,Plasma TV etc at a competitive price. We sell only brand new original and genuine mobile phones,mp3,pda and they all comes with 12months manufacturer warranty.


Shipping and Return Policy:

All products are shipped from our warehouse factory through UPS, DHL,EMS SPEEDPOST or FEDEX,We deliver consignment within a stipulatted time of 48hours(2 working days) at your door steps.If there is any damage/damages during shipment/warranty period of 1 year,we shall replace the item/items bought at our own cost of shipping. We guarantee that all product/products ship are brand new and original seal boxes with 1 year international warranty.


To place your order send us an email or visit our website for more information {http://www.arabambi.ebored.com}


For your Order pls email me at :

Email : arabambilimited@mailmeasap.com
Email : arabambi_ltd@netzero.com
MSN : arrabambilimited@hotmail.com

TEL : +99595208712

Website : http://www.arabambi.ebored.com

We sell all kind of mobile phones, play stations, nintendo wii, game consoles, electronics, laptops and accessories at affordable price,it has one year international warranty,unlock,comes with company original seal pack,this phone are all brand new direct from the manufacturers in English & Spanish manual, Finland made.we do our shipping worldwide via Fedex and UPS International Service to your doorstep location within 48 hours depending on your destination,and the Tracking number shall be sent to you upon acknowledgement.


EMAILS: phoneassuure_ltds@yahoo.com &
phoneassuure_ltd@hotmail.com
Tel: +447011148777


Nokia E90 : $265USD
Nokia N95 8GB : $265USD
Nokia N81 8GB : $230USD
Nokia N98 : $290USD
Nokia N99 : $270USD
Nokia N95 : $250USD
Nokia N94 : $220USD
Nokia N93 : $210USD
Nokia N75 : $190USD
Nokia N92 : $200USD
Nokia N83 : $175USD
Nokia N91 : $180USD
Nokia N90 : $170USD
Nokia N70 : $150USD
Nokia N71 : $155USD
Nokia N72 : $160USD
Nokia N73 : $165USD
Nokia N80 : $160USD
Nokia 7500 : $185USD
Nokia 7360 : $165USD
Nokia 7380 : $175USD
Nokia 7370 : $170USD
Nokia 8800 Sirocco : $260USD
Nokia 8801 : $145usd
Nokia 7710 : $145USD
Nokia 7610 : $120usd
Nokia 9300 : $145USD
Nokia 9500 : $170USD


Apple iphone 8GB : $270usd
Apple iphone 4GB : $240usd
Dopod 838 Pro : $230


Sony Ericsson w900i : $140usd
Sony Ericsson W800i : $135usd
sony Ericsson w700 : $130usd
sony Ericsson w600i : $125usd
sony Ericsson w300 : $120usd
sony Ericsson w950 : $160usd
Sony Ericsson p990i : $145usd
Sony Ericsson m600i : $175usd
sony Ericsson m600 : $170usd
Sony Ericsson p990 : $140usd
Sony Ericsson p910i : $125usd


Treo 700p : $200usd
Treo 700w : $190usd
PalmOne Treo 300 : $120
PalmOne Treo 680 : $150
PalmOne Treo 650 $145
PalmOne Treo 610 $140
PalmOne Treo 600 $150
PalmOne Treo 750 $180
PalmOne Treo 700 $170


Nextel i930 : $130usd
Nextel i870 : $120usd
Nextel i860 : $110usd


Motorola V3x Razor : $140
Motorola L2 : $130
Motorola W375 : $120
Motorola ROKR E6 : $135
Motorola i920 : $200
Motorola I850 : $240
Motorola i930 : $260
Motorola SLVR L7C : $210
Motorola Red MOTORAZR V3M : $140
Motorola Rizr Z3 : $185
Motorola PEBL : $150
Motorola i760 : $165
Motorola MOTOKRZR K1 : $150
Motorola MOTORAZR V3xx : $140
Motorola RAZR V3 : $160
Motorola KRZR K1M : $185
Motorola MING : $188
Motorola Razr V3i : $150
Motorola MotoSlim L6 : $160
Motorola Q Smartphone : $230
Motorola RAZR V3M : $155


Eten M700 Glofish : $270
Eten M600 : $240
Eten G500 : $210
Qtek 9000 : $210
Qtek 9100 : $220
Qtek 9600 : $230
Qtek G100 : $175
QTEK S200 : $185
Qtek 8100 : $125
QTEK 8300 : $145
Qtek 8310 : $165
Qtek 8500 : $155
Qtek 8600 : $190


Samsung D800 : $210USD
Samsung D820 : $220USD
Samsung D500 : $160usd
Samsung d600 : $170usd


SIDEKICK 2 : $120USD
SIDEKICK 3 : $200USD


Blackberry 850 : $120
Blackberry 857 : $135
Blackberry 950 : $140
Blackberry 957 : $145
Blackberry 7280 : $155
Blackberry 7290 : $160
Blackberry 7510 : $165
BlackBerry 7520 : $170
Blackberry 7730 : $175
Blackberry 7750 : $180
Blackberry 7780 : $185
Blackberry 5810 : $140
Blackberry 8800 : $230
Blackberry 8700c : $210
Blackberry Pearl : $215


I-Mate Smartflip : $190
I-Mate SP5 : $130
I-Mate SP5m : $120
I-Mate JAM 128MB : $180
I-Mate JAMin : $200
I-Mate JASJAR : $280
I-Mate K-Jam : $200


HTC price list


HTC P5500 (HTC Nike) : $530usd
HTC P6500 (HTC Sirius) : $520usd
HTC S730 (HTC Wings) : $510usd
HTC P4550 (HTC Kaiser) : $500usd
HTC P3450 (HTC Elf) : $490usd
HTC Advantage X7501 : $480usd
HTC S420 (HTC Erato) : $450usd
HTC P6300 (HTC Panda) : $440usd
HTC S630 (HTC Cavalier 100) : $430usd
HTC P3400 (HTC Gene) : $410usd
HTC P3350 (HTC Love) : $400usd
HTC Advantage X7500 (HTC Athena) : $470usd
HTC S320 (HTC Monet) : $350usd
HTC P4350 (HTC Herald 100) : $370usd
HTC P3300 (HTC Artemis 160) : $300usd
HTC S620 (HTC Excalibur 100) : $480usd
HTC P3600 (HTC Trinity 100) : $400usd
HTC S310 (HTC Oxygen) : $280usd
HTC MTeoR (HTC Breeze 160) : $360usd
HTC TyTN P4500 (HTC Hermes 200) : $400usd


Apple 80gb video ipod : $160usd
Apple 60GB video iPod : $120USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe : $110USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A : $130usd
Apple 20 GB iPod U2 Special Edition : $110usd
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Green M9807LL/A : $140usd
Apple Ipod Nano 2GB : $140usd
Apple Ipod Nano 4GB : $140usd
Ipod Touch 8GB : $155usd
Apple Ipod video 30GB : $120usd
Apple Ipod video 60GB : $120usd


SONY PSP PRICE LIST


UMD Sampler Pack : $250usd
Sony PSP Super Value Pack w/2 Games, Spider Man Movie, UMD Sampler : $230usd
Sony PSP - 3 Games, Spider Man Movie : $220usd
Sony "PSP Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix ValuePack : $220usd
Sony PSP "Sports Value Pack" - 2 Games,UMD Sampler Pack : $210usd
Sony PSP "Value Pack" - 1 Racing Game,UMD Sampler : $200usd
Sony PSP Limited Edition(White) 20 Games+Car Kit Etc : $180usd


XBOX PRICE LIST


Microsoft Xbox 360 Platinum System : $250usd
Microsoft Xbox 360 Core System : $240usd
Microsoft Xbox 360 System Bundle : $210usd
Xbox 360 Customer Choice Bundle with Hard Drive : $200usd
Xbox 360 Live Bundle : $270usd
Xbox 360 Core Bundle : $250usd
Xbox 360 Core System Bundle : $230usd
x_box 360 : $220usd
Microsoft Xbox 360 Platinum System : $320usd
Playstation 1 : $200usd
Playstation 3 : $300usd
Playstation 2 : $260usd
NINTENDO WII : $270usd
GARMIN 396 : $170usd
Game boy latext edition : $110usd
MP3 WACH : $150USD


LAPTOPS price list


Sony VAIOSony VAIO B100B - Pentium M 755 2GHz 100GB HD -14.1 TFT : $920
Sony VAIO T350P/L 1.2 GHz VGN-T350P/L : $1090
Sony VAIO PCG-V505AC Notebook Intel Pentium 4 M-1.8GHz : $950
Sony VAIO FS680/w VGN-FS680/W : $1099
Sony VAIO FS742/w Notebook - VGN-FS742/W : $990
Sony VAIO A600P - Pentium M 740 1.73 GHz - RAM 512 MB : $840
Sony VAIO Pentium M 1.6GHz Centrino Wireless B+G : $980
Sony VAIO VGN-FS740W VGNFS740W Notebook : $899
Sony VAIO A600 Notebook-VGN-A600B01 VGN-A600B01 : $750
Sony Vaio A140 Pentium M 1.5GHz / 15.4-Inch / 256MB : $985
Sony VAIO VGN-T150P/L VAIO T150 Cent 1.1G 40GB-XPP : $1000
Sony VAIO A230 Centrino 1.6G 60GB 512MB XPP 15-X XB DVD : $900
Sony VAIO B100 VGN-B100B03 : $740
Sony VAIO PCG-GRX500K4 : $1,370
Sony VAIO T370P/L 1.2 GHz VGN-T370P/L : $1,080
Sony Vaio A140 Pentium M 1.5GHz / 15.4-Inch / 256MB : $700
Sony VAIO Pentium M 1.8GHz XP Pro VGNB100B35 : $735
Sony VAIO T240P Cent PM 1.2G 512MB 60GB DVD/CDRW 10.6W XB XP : $800
Sony VAIO A600P - Pentium M 740 1.73 GHz - RAM 512 MB : $900
DELL Inspiron 700M Centrino 2.0GHz Processor - 512MB : $510
Dell Inspiron 700M 1.6GHz Pentium M 512MB 60GB DVD/CD-RW : $1,050
Dell 700m 2.0Ghz 1.5GB 80GB DVDRW WiFi : $700
Dell 700m Intel Pentium M 1.7 Ghz DVD/CDRW Wireless : $600
Dell Laptop 700M-2YC1.7G : $750
Dell Inspiron 700m 735 1.7 DVD CD-RW 40GB 512MB Wi-Fi : $670
Dell Inspiron 700m, PM 1.6GHz, 512MB, 60GB , DVD+-R : $620
Dell Inspiron 700M Centrino 1.6GHZ,1.6GHZ,512MB,40GB,DVDRW : $685
DELL Inspiron 700M Centrino 2.0GHz Processor - 512MB : $959
NEW DELL Inspiron 600M Notebook : $845
Dell Inspiron 700m 1.7GHz 512MB DVD+/-RW WiFi 40GB : $820


PLASMA TELEVISION PRICE LIST


Sony Grand WEGA KDFE42A10 42 in LCD Rear-Projection TV : $900
Sony Grand WEGA SXRD KDS-R60XBR1 60 in Rear-Projection LCoS TV : $800
Sony Grand WEGA SXRD KDS-R50XBR1 50 in Rear-Projection LCoS TV : $850
Sony Wega KDF-E50A10 50 in LCD Rear-Projection TV : $1000
Sharp Aquos LC-32DA5U 32 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $850
Sony Wega KDL-V40XBR1 40 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $700
Sony Wega KD-36FS130 36 in Flat Screen TV : $800
Samsung HL-R5067W 50 in Rear-Projection DLP TV : $850
Panasonic TH-50PHD8UK 50 in Flat Panel Plasma TV : $800
Samsung HL-R5667W 56 in Rear-Projection DLP TV : $900
Samsung HL-R4266W 42 in Rear-Projection DLP TV : $750
Samsung LN-R408D 40 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $600
Samsung HP-R4252 42 in Flat Panel Plasma TV : $850
Magnavox 15MF605T 15 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $800
Panasonic TH-42PWD8UK 42 in Flat Panel Plasma TV : $870
Sony BRAVIA XBR KDL-V32XBR1 32 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $950
Sony Grand WEGA KDF-E55A20 55 in LCD Rear-Projection TV : $600
Sharp Aquos LC-37D7U 37 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $950
Pioneer PureVision PDP-5060HD 50 in Flat Panel Plasma TV : $900
Samsung LN-R268W 26 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $800
Sony BRAVIA XBR KDL-V32XBR1 32 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $850
Sony Grand WEGA KDF-E55A20 55 in LCD Rear-Projection TV : $950
Sharp Aquos LC-37D7U 37 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $700
Samsung LN-R268W 26 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $650
Sony Grand WEGA KDF-E60A20 60 in Rear-Projection LCD TV : $600
Samsung HL-R4667W 46 in Rear-Projection DLP TV : $700
Sony Wega KLV-S32A10 32 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $750
Sony BRAVIA KLV-S26A10 26 in Flat Panel LCD TV : $750


We also sell in Bulk order, and in GOOD Discount prices,We give discount for bulk quantity ordered for,We are currently doing a bonanza and if you buy up to 3 units of any products,you get 1 Apple 80gb video ipod.We make shipment through fedEx courier services and UPS, and they deliver within 48hrs home delivery.


Thanks.


The Management.


EMAILS: phoneassuure_ltds@yahoo.com &
phoneassuure_ltd@hotmail.com
Tel: +447011148777

Name & Registered Office:
PHONETEC LIMITED
402 LADYPOOL ROAD
SPARKBROOK
BIRMINGHAM
WEST MIDLANDS B12 8JZ
Company No. 05126525


We are taking this golden opportunity to present ourselves before you as being one of the leading manufacturing in United Kingdom and exporter of ELECTRONIC COMPONENTS here in United Kingdom for the past 7 years. We will be really appreciated if you can put us under your consideration as one of your business partner.
Below are our company's main source of export products: Mobile Phones,Laptops,Plasma Tv,Camera,Camcorder Etc.
We will be glad to send you catalogues and samples if you are interested. Please feel free to ask any questions and write us today telling about your requirements.
Your business is very important for our company, and we hope to hear from you soon.

HTC ADVANTAGE:-

HTC TOUCH P3450 TRIBAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE.......................$220usd
HTC X7500 ADVANTAGE QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE........$400usd
HTC X7501 ADVANTAGE QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE.........$350usd
HTC S710 VOX QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE...........................$200usd
HTC P6300 TRIBAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE........................................$280u sd
HTC P4350 HEARLD QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE...................$250usd
HTC P4300 QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE.....................................$200usd
HTC P3600 TRINITY HSDPA QUAD BAND UNLOCKED PDA GSM MOBILE PHONE0...$220usd
HTC P3350 LOVE QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE..........................$280usd
HTC P3300 QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM GPRS GPS MOBILE PDA PHONE..........$250usd
HTC MTEOR PDA QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE...........................$220usd
HTC TYTN QUAD BAND UMTS UNLOCKED GSM PDA MOBILE PHONE....................$280usd
HTC S620 EXCALIBER QUAD BAND WIFI WINDOWS OS UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE...$200usd
HTC S621 EXCALIBER QUAD BAND WIFI WINDOWS OS UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE...$210usd
HTC S411 PDA QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE..................................$180usd
HTC OXYGEN S310 QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM WINDOWS MOBILE PHONE.......$220usd
HTC MONET UMTS QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE...........................$160usd

MITAC MIO:-

MiTAC MIO A701 TRIBAND UNLOCKED GPS MICROSOFT OS PDA SMARTPHONE.......$220usd
MiTAC MIO A501 QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GPS MICROSOFT OS PDA SMARTPHONE....$210usd
MiTAC MIO 8390 TRIBAND UNLOCKED MICROSOFT OS BASED SMARTPHONE..............$150usd

APPLE IPHONE :-

APPLE IPHONE 8GB.............................................. ............................$180usd
APPLE IPHONE 4GB.............................................. ............................$150usd

HP IPAQ:-

HP IPAQ RW6828 TRIBAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PDA PHONE..........................$250usd
HP IPAQ RW6818 TRIBAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PDA PHONE...........................$220usd
HP QUAD BAND HW6510 PDA MOBILE BLUETOOTH UNLOCKED PHONE................$280usd
HP IPAQ HW6515 UNLOCKED QUAD BAND GSM/GPRS MOBILE PHONE....................$300usd
HP IPAQ HW6915 UNLOCKED QUAD BAND GPS GPRS WIFI UNLOCKED GSM BLUETOOTH CAMERA PHONE...$320usd
HP IPAQ HW6910 UNLOCKED GSM GPRS GPS WIFI UNLOCKED GSM BLUETOOTH PDA PHONE......$310usd
HP IPAQ HW6945 UNLOCKED QUAD BAND GSM PDA MOBILE PHONE...................$260usd
HP IPAQ HW6940 UNLOCKED QUAD BAND GSM PDA MOBILE PHONE....................$240usd
HP IPAQ HW6965 UNLOCKED QUAD BAND GSM PDA MOBILE PHONE.....................$220usd

ETEN GLOFISH:-

ETEN GLOFISH M700 GPS GSM MOBILE PHONE WITH QWERTY KEYPAD UNLOCKED............$280usd
ETEN GLOFISH X500 GPS GSM GPRS QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE...............$240usd
ETEN M600+ QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM GPRS MOBILE PHONE............................................. ....$200usd
ETEN G500+ QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM GPS GPRS MOBILE PHONE.........................................$250 usd
ETEN M600 QUAD BAND BLUETOOTH WIFI UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE............................$220usd
E TEN M550 QUAD BAND PDA UNLOCKED GSM WIFI BLUETOOTH MOBILE PHONE....................$180usd
ETEN M500 QUAD BAND BLUETOOTH MOBILE PHONE............................................. ..........................$200usd
TORQ P120 QUADBAND UNLOCKED BLUETOOTH WIFI GSM MOBILE PHONE.................................$220usd
TORQ N100 QUAD BAND GPS GPRS UNLOCKED BLUETOOTH GSM MOBILE PHONE......................$240usd

NOKIA :-

NOKIA N95 8GB SAND UMTS HSPDA QUAD BAND GPS UNLOCKED GSM 5 MEGA PIXEL CAMERA PHONE.....$250usd
NOKIA N93I W.GRAPHITE UMTS TRIBAND UNLOCKED GSM CAMERA PHONE............................................. .$200usd
NOKIA N93I D.PLUM UMTS TRIBAND UNLOCKED GSM CAMERA PHONE............................................. ...........$200usd
NOKIA N93I UMTS TRIBAND UNLOCKED GSM CAMERA PHONE............................................. ...........................$200usd
NOKIA N93 GREY SILVER TRIBAND 3.2 MEGA PIXEL CAMERA UNLOCKED BLUETOOTH MOBILE PHONE9....$180usd
NOKIA N93 PEARL BLACK TRIBAND 3.2 MEGA PIXEL CAMERA UNLOCKED BLUETOOTH MOBILE PHONE.....$180usd
NOKIA N93 TRIBAND 3.2 MEGA PIXEL CAMERA UNLOCKED BLUETOOTH MOBILE PHONE........................$180usd
NOKIA N92 UMTS 3G TRIBAND DVB-H TV BROADCAST RECIVER UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE...........$160usd
NOKIA N91 8GB MUSIC EDITION UNLOCKED LIMITED EDITION UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE.............$150usd
NOKIA N90 UMTS TRIBAND UNLOCKED MOBILE PHONE 2 MEGA PIXEL CAMERA BLUETOOTH EDGE9....$140usd

QTEK :-

QTEK 9600 UMTS QUAD BAND WIFI UNLOCKED GSM MOBILE PHONE.......................$250usd
QTEK 9090 PDA QUAD BAND UNLOCKED PHONE............................................. ..................$200usd
QTEK S200 PDA QUAD BAND UNLOCKED GSM PHONE............................................. ..........$160usd
QTEK 9100 QUAD BAND WIFI UNLOCKED GSM PDA MOBILE PHONE..............................$180usd
QTEK 9000 PDA TRIBAND UMTS UNLOCKED PHONE............................................. ...............$170usd
Qtek 2020i TRIBAND UNLOCKED GSM/GPRS PDA PHONE..................................$160usd
QTEK 2020 PDA TRIBAND GSM UNLOCKED PHONE............................................. $150usd
QTEK S100 MINI PDA GSM TRIBAND PHONE.......................$120usd


Pioneer CDJ-1000MK2...............340usd
Pioneer CDJ-800MK2.................320usd
Pioneer CDJ-1000mk2...............280usd
Pioneer CDJ-1000MK3..............350usd
Pioneer CDJ-500 CD-Player.......200usd
Pioneer CDJ-1000 CD Player.......350usd
Pioneer CMX-3000 Twin CD Player...250usd
Pioneer CDJ-800 CD Player........300usd

Pioneer DJM-1000 .....................470usd
Pioneer DJM-800........................320usd
Pioneer DJM-600 Mixer ..............200usd
Pioneer DJM-3000 19" Mixer ......210usd
Pioneer DJM-600-S Mixer...........250usd
Pioneer DJM-909 Battle Mixer.....220usd
Technics SL-1200MK2...............200usd
Technics SL-DZ 1200.................220usd
Technics SL-1210M5G Pro Turntable.. .240usd
Technics SL-1210MK5 Pro Turntable ...210usd
Technics SH-MZ1200 4 Channel DJ Mixer.........200usd

Denon DN-D4500 Pro DJ Dual CD/MP3 Player...300usd
Denon DN-D9000.....................300usd
Denon DN-D6000.....................450usd
Denon DN S3500 (CD player)....200usd
Denon DN S5000 (CD player)....200usd
Denon DN X1500s (Mixer).........200usd
Denon DN-HD2500 ..................300usd

Pioneer EFX-1000 Pro-Effector..280usd
Pioneer DVJ-X1 DVD Player......580usd
Pioneer DVJ-1000...............500usd
Pioneer VSW-1 Video Switcher ..150usd
Pioneer DMP-555 MultiMedia Player..270usd
Pioneer DJ DVD TURNTABLE DE DVJ-X1..620usd

Numark CDX Direct-Drive CD Turntable......300usd
Numark TTX Direct-Drive Turntable............200usd
Numark X2 Pro Hybrid Turntable And CD / MP3 Player.....250usd
Numark DVD01 Dual DVD Player.........200usd
Numark 5000FX 12" 5-Channel Tabletop Mixer ....200usd
Numark DXM09 Digital DJ Mixer...150usd
Numark AVM02 Audio/Video Mixer with Effects ......300usd
Numark CM200USB 5-Channel 19" Rackmount DJ Mixer .......150usd
Numark DXM06 2-Channel Digital Mixer....150usd
Numark iDJ 2 DJ Console for the iPOD ...........250usd
Numark NuVJ Video Mixer .....................150usd
Numark CM100 Club Series DJ Mixer....100usd

Robe ColorWash 575 AT Moving Yoke DMX Lighting Fixture...1500usd

SPEAKER
Bose 901 VI Main / Stereo Speaker..........400usd
Klipsch LA SCALA Main / Stereo Speaker.......850usd
Paradigm Titan Main / Stereo Speaker...........900usd
Definitive BP7001SC Main / Stereo Speaker........850usd
KEF Audio KHT5005.2 System..............................550usd
Revel F52 Main / Stereo Speaker...........................1,150usd
Atlantic Technology System 4200e Speaker.............700usd
Canton CD 3500 Main / Stereo Speaker...................750usd
Aperion Audio Intimus 633 Concert XD System........900usd
2 JBL PRX518S (18" Self Powered Subwoofer System)....320usd
Yamaha YSP-1100 Main / Stereo Speaker...............450usd

Feel free to contact us via Email Below :-

phonetecltd@mailmeasap.com
phonetecltd@europemail.com
phonetecltd@vipmail.hu

Williams Barry

Available & affordable phones for sale. For further inquiry contact marketing Manager:

Email: craig.llinks@yahoo.com
Mr. Craig Don
Tell: +447031834321

N95...$250
N93...$200
N91....$160
8800..$190

E60....$150
E61 ....$155
E70....$160
N-Gage..$175

Apple Iphone 4GB..$200
Apple Iphone 8GB..$250
Apple Iphone 16GB....$500

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