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July 17, 2006

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Excellent analysis EW! Really good stuff.

I have read Billmon's cogent posts over the last couple days and Steve Soto's post calling for sanctions on Iran like it would matter. But I think your analysis is straightforward and makes the most common sense.

Iran knew that Russia and China were wavering on the UN sanctions fig leaf which would have provided legitimacy to an attack on them. The Europeans were more united with the US on the sanctions issue than any other recent issue. They also realized that Bush-Cheney need something spectacular to distract the American public and enable Karl Rove to rescue this November's congressional election. So an attack by the US with possibly a larger coalition relatively soon was becoming a high probability situation.

"Shaping the battlefield" was important. As you point out its all about shaping perceptions. They have achieved a few things already. Hezbollah has demonstrated an ability to attack and capture Israeli patrols demonstrating good planning and execution. Second, they have demonstrated some of their missile arsenal by attacking an Israeli naval warship and the city of Haifa. Third, they are creating a political environment in the Arab street by showing the appeasement of the "moderate" Arabs (Egypt, Jordan) and the disproportionate and indiscriminate attacks by the Israelis in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. Fourth, Sadr has come out in support of Iraqis resisting the "zionist aggression".

But at the same time today we saw the simplistic, black & white mind of Bush with his exchange with Blair. No wonder Cheney runs circles. So the neocons both in the US and Israel may believe that a wider conflagration is in their interests. They may also believe that their overwhelming conventional military superiority can destroy their adversaries and enable favorable regime change. They may also believe that they'll handle it differently than the fiasco of the 18 year occupation of southern Lebanon by Israel and the occupation of Iraq by the US.

Will we now see a decade long contest between 4G and conventional military power?

It won't last a decade. Big wars take oil to run. If this goes regional, particularly if the Iranians can get the Shiites in the Saudi fields to join the fun, this may bring about an giant oil depression in much nearer terms.

One thing I haven't seen yet--but intend to go hunt up some Spanish language reporting on--is how Chavez has reacted. Venezuela and Iran have a history of cooperating to maximize their petroleum leverage. And while Chavez is nowhere near as shrewd as the Mullahs, he is opportunistic. And well aware that the US has him in its sites, as well.

In the past, the US has been able to find alternative sources of oil to outlast a Middle Eastern embargo. But the most logical alternative is Venezuela. And it might take military conflict there to get him to give it to us. And if things get that bad, what do you think China, with its imperative to maintain 8% growth, will do?

Curious what the Russians interest in all this is? They benefit tremendously with high oil and natural gas prices. Their economy has really stabilized and improved substantially with improving commodities pricing.

Will they make the play for the alternative to the US superpower in conjunction with China?

No idea, ab initio.

Interesting analysis. I agree that Iran has every reason to find a way out from the US or Israel making a preemptive first strike against it. I really cannot believe they have strategized it to the point of directing Hamas to seize Israeli captives, but maybe they have. I think Iran should make suspension of US military aid to Israel a pre-condition for engaging in negotiations about its uranium enrichment program.

I think Iran should make suspension of US military aid to Israel a pre-condition for engaging in negotiations about its uranium enrichment program.

Excellent suggestion, Powerpuff.

As I said, the one thing I believe is that Iran intervened to forestall an Israeli-Hamas settlement. The rest, there's no way of wading through the propaganda.

Emptywheel wrote:

Without firing a shot itself, Iran may have significantly neutralized the US primary advantage in this war. They may well lose it, if Hezbollah lacks the discipline to back off when Iran tells it to.

I don't follow you here. What are the conditions that Iran is expecting to develop whereupon it would call on Hezbollah "to back off?"

everyone wants to make it more than it is, as it is right now, in this moment.
Israel was attacked by hizbollah, which is run by Syria and Iran. I grant that

but Israel's response is to fight their war of independence. It just happens that today (again) is that day. Until the ones attacking them are reduced, there will be this war of independence. Israel is the most restrained nation on this planet. It does become obvious who cares about a real democracy and who cares about oil. France cares about oil and not democracy. the US cares about oil and not democracy. Israel is just a tool for the "cons"

people care about independence. Governments, no matter what kind, hate it. it breaks up the status quo

Israel is the most restrained nation on this planet

And I am a gentoo penguin.

You know, I couldn't even reand this wise reflection upon Israei moderation in Gaza, considering someone took out my electrical plant.

CMike

Well, I suspect Iran has told Hezbollah NOT to do what most people would do with a juicy target of a cruise ship just off shore, loading up Americans like cows heading for the slaughter.

I suspect the goal is to keep Israel aware than Hezbollah COULD respond (in that Israel has alrady discovered this isn't their Arab opponent from the 1960s). But to make sure that the civilian attacks appear, mostly, to be Israeli. Of course it'd be hard for us to gauge that, since in America the civilian attacks are portrayed as primarily Hezbollah, in spite of the 200 dead Lebanese civilians.

Sorry, I believe you have it exactly backwards. I don't think Iran provoked this -- it has Cheney's fingerprints all over it. He made a deal with Israel to use the next "incident," whatever it was (and it turned out to be the real or faked kidnapping of Israeli soldiers) to launch an attack to clean out Hezbullah. It provided an opportunity to display (supposed) Israeli military superiority and cable news pictures of missiles falling on Israel. When Cheney decides to bomb Teheran back to the Stone Age, his excuse will be that since Iran now has missiles (or proxies with missiles) capable of targeting Israel's largest cities, we absolutely cannot allow them to develop nuclear warheads. That's why the U.S. is discouraging even the discussion of cease-fire: this mini-war is providing them with valuable pictures!

Thanks for the clarification. I misread what you were saying. When you wrote about a call "to back off" it was in the context of Iran's preferred terms of (ongoing) engagement not any foreseeable denouement. Guess I should be taking your post title quite literally.

Hard currency rules. High(er) oil prices are in Iran and Russia's best interest.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HA18Ak02.html

It's funny you should put it this way. Yesterday, I was thinking that Israel v Hizbollah in southern Lebanon looks suspiciously like the last conventional ground war before the The Way Wars are Foughtâ„¢ changes again and the blitzkrieg approach goes the way of trench warfare.

Israel seems to be using just about the most 20th-century tactics imaginable -- soften up the infrastructure with air strikes, cut off supply routes, disrupt your enemy's command structure and pivot points until you can punch through with tanks and troops and capture a strategic objective. The fact that the strategic objective in question is a couple of kidnapped soldiers is weird, granted, but the tactics are like something out of a newsreel. Israel is signaling in no uncertain terms that it is willing to decimate the civilian population of southern Lebanon if that's what it takes to disarm Hizbollah, and to hell with the diplomatic consequences (which would be grave indeed).

By the same token, as quite a lot of people have now pointed out, Hizbollah just keeps firing those damn rockets. They're pretty much guaranteed to get their asses handed to them eventually if the tactical scenario plays out the way it traditionally has, but their leadership don't seem very concerned about that. Why the hell not? They're basically taunting The IDF. "You're bluffing big guy! Come and get me." Do they know something Israel doesn't, or are they just crazy fierce?

The thing that's really scary is that the boy prince doesn't even seem to have embraced a strategy. Cheney et al are trying to climb onto the tiger and ride it through town by catapulting the propaganda; Condi and everybody else (Poodle, Pooty-poot, Who's on First et al) are trying to get the fucking tiger back in the fucking cage goddamit by jaw-jaw-jawing... But the boy prince just isn't engaged enough to actually pursue either approach once its proponents have left the room.

God help us all...

I'm not sure which of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's mushrooms you are discussing, or whether the sovietologist is a match for the now twenty years of Lebanon's power vacuum; even, whether the British or French care or have the polity to address regional tensions, though the EU and Nato might. One part of the Straussian fiction is that seriousness equates to dignity. Arab religion is fused to civil theory, very much like your feudalist 'new paradigm' essay a while back probing the nexus which is the corporate governance style of Bush-2, term 2. I see a lot of the puzzlement in US foreign relations now a contrast of experience in Condi's leadership, juxtaposed with the very stonewalling resistance by Bolton, predicted by some senators when warning Bush to resist putting Bolton in the UN. We have another six months of that recess appointment to endure. The US spent decades funnelling billions in arms into several Arab countries to placate them for their legitimate concern over Israel's diplomatic situation and its own arms pipeline from the US. Call me an optimist. I think if we understand who has the greatest interests in the region, we relax a little more. Lebanon once was the banking hub and would like that economic infusion to return.

hey're basically taunting The IDF. "You're bluffing big guy! Come and get me." Do they know something Israel doesn't, or are they just crazy fierce?

The thing that's really scary is that the boy prince doesn't even seem to have embraced a strategy. Cheney et al are trying to climb onto the tiger and ride it through town by catapulting the propaganda; Condi and everybody else (Poodle, Pooty-poot, Who's on First et al) are trying to get the fucking tiger back in the fucking cage goddamit by jaw-jaw-jawing... But the boy prince just isn't engaged enough to actually pursue either approach once its proponents have left the room.

Several rich images there, radish.

Part of what we are seeing is the disintegration of our relations with countries in the ME--Tenet had personal relationships he could call on when something was needed, but that's all gone now, and many peope with expertise have left the gov't because they realized they weren't needed. And I don't think Bush is on very firm ground when he is away from home with only Condi with him. He is so woefully ignorant.

On the one hand it makes sense that the Iranians are trying to demonstrate that there are going to be much greater consequences from an attack on their country and, as EW has said, are keeping us and Israel off the moral high ground (not pushing, since neither was there to begin with). At the same time Israel is itching to use its weapons and wants to get Hizbullah out of So Lebanon, although what has changed so drastically in the last month, considering this has gone on for years and years, is beyond me. Maybe as Steve Clemons said, it makes it hard for the US to pull out of Iraq or cut a deal. The stock market seemed to think that peace is at hand, and oil went down. Go figure.

I suppose as long as the Sunnis and the Shi'a are only fighting each other in Iraq there is some hope.

What's odd in all this is that Iran was already sitting in the catbird seat. We knocked off their chief regional enemy, then got bogged down there, having to deal with the Iraqi Shia, who are heavily influenced by Iran. We could launch airstrikes, but with our army tied down and the inherent limits of our military power starkly revealed, the prospect of imposing "regime change" in Iran is nil.

It isn't even likely we could do much to their nuclear program, because from all indications it is not to the stage of mass industrial facilities (a la Oak Ridge) that make good targets. What they have is likely to be highly dispersed, in ways we can't readily detect from satellite imagery. In those circumstances, all we'd do with airstrikes is kill a bunch of Iranians and push the rest closer to the regime. (It hardly gets mentioned, but is it any real surprise that the Iranian liberals have gone into steep decline since the Iraq war started?)

So, while the Iranians may have nothing to lose in this, I don't see where they have anything to gain either. It doesn't quite hold together that their leadership would take risks by knocking over the apple cart when things were already so rosy for them.

Perhaps, then, Hesbollah acted on their own. Or, if there's someone behind them it might more likely be Syria. Syria was badly embarrassed just last year by having to pull out of Lebanon. (Remember the "purple revolution," or whatever it was called? Seems so long ago now.)

Now Hesbollah and the Israelis between them are showing how totally helpless the Lebanese government is to do anything, either protect itself from Israel or lock down Hesbollah. Which leaves Syria as the only player who could rein in Hesbollah and restore some kind of truce without ruining its street cred in the Arab world.

Several rich images there, radish.

Just trying to distract from the fact that I don't actually know what I'm talking about :D

I don't see where they have anything to gain either. It doesn't quite hold together that their leadership would take risks by knocking over the apple cart when things were already so rosy for them.

Maybe, but it might already seem a lot riskier from their POV than it looks from the outside. If they have reason to think that the special forces guys have finished mapping the artillery outposts on the Iran side of the strait (or something like that) then they might well feel that they'd be better off creating a distraction sooner rather than later.

I think your analysis is right on the money, unfortunately. 4G warfare involves initiative, daring, and strategy as well as a realistic evaluation of the battlefield. In this, the neo's and Bush have consistently lost their standing in the world, with the exception of the response in Indonesia after the tsunami. The Pentagon has defiled the military and its planning capability. The Neo's have toasted foggy bottom. There is no, I repeat, NO clear thinking about our current situation or future actions going on within the halls of our government.

When I saw the Time cover about the end of the cowboy presidency, I laughed out loud. No matter how deep we as a society bury our head in the sand and let criminals rape our democarcy, the truth will out. We have seen the enemy and he is us (god bless Pogo!).

The World is withdrawing from the the USA both as a political idea and as an economy. WE have strewn our ignorance and arrogance about with boisterous abandon. THEY are having a field day with realigning their interests away from ours, and I contend with prejudice.

If Iran cut off the oil and a bunch of Americans felt the real consequences of their oil addiction, it would be judged excessive.

That's inevitable in the U.S. with our media, but they're going to do it anyway. Mostly because if they survive three months they win. World oil production has been around 85mbpd for the last year. There is no spare capacity. And if the U.S. tries to outbid someone for oil, they'll most likely be bidding against China.

Tim

True, it'll be judged as excessive in the US one way or another. But Israel the US are likely to take the blame if it comes as a result of excessive retaliation.

But for just about every single area of strength here, Iran stood to lose if it used the weapon in case of surgical first strike.

But, of course, the strike would not be ``surgical''. It never is. It's an interesting question who would lose the initiative with the EU, China, etc, if Iran then proceeded to cut off the flow of oil thru' the straits of Hormuz. (Which they could do by sinking a tanker or two pour encourager les autres

``And while Chavez is nowhere near as shrewd as the Mullahs, he is opportunistic. And well aware that the US has him in its sites, as well.''

I presume you mean ``in its sights'': you've been blogging too long EW :-)

Also in what way is Chavez not as shrewd as the mullahs? Seems to me he has played his cards pretty well so far. He has wrested the oil revenues away from the previous oligarchy and put them to use both in carrying out his domestic program: improving the lives and life chances of the poor majority of Venezuela, and in putting together a coalition in South America counter to the ``Washington Consensus'', and Washington's dominance of South America.

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