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July 31, 2006


About time. It sounds good from the reports. I especially like the sound of "redeploy" and "limited mission."

They may have been emboldened by the Pentagon announcement that it was extending tours of duty yet again and sending 5,000 more troops to Baghdad. This action prompted Chuck Hagel to say,

that in the previous 48 hours, he had received three telephone calls from four-star generals who were "beside themselves" over the Pentagon's reversal of plans to bring tens of thousands of soldiers home this fall.
As things go from bad to worse in the ME, it is long past time to begin to redeploy out of Iraq before while we still can.

Couldn't agree more with your post. I hear lots of people say they have had it with the Repubs, but without taking a breath they say "But I haven't hear anything any better from the Democrats" John Stewart has twice politely abraded Howard Dean for not having a narrative. IT's DAMN TIME to get one. My most hardcore right wing-day time radio listening-can't stand weenie Dems friends confided to me that he thought we needed to start getting out of Iraq. You hit the proper position dead on the head DemfromCT. Hope the DNC is listening

Dismayed, of course, suggested the frame. The link is in the story.

What about a post on positions in general for November? If the DNC can't get a grip on it perhaps we can just do it for them. I'm quite sure they hang on every word from TNH.

Okay, okay, you're all brilliant. (You are, actually.)

This is very, very good news. And that's a nice, broad cross-section of signatories to the letter. And the fact that they're finally speaking in a unified voice on Iraq may do even more than give the voters a real alternative to the more-of-the-same gang on Iraq. For so long, Democrats have simply not seen that beyond the substance of what you stand for, the very fact of standing for it makes you look strong, and that all the worrying about image and compulsion to comprimise just fuels the "weenie Dems" thing. If you want people to think you're strong, then dammit, be strong. This letter is -- finally! -- a great step in the right direction. Thanks for the post, DemFromCT.

Sen. Hagel:

"The sickening slaughter on both sides must end and it must end now," Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel said. "President Bush must call for an immediate cease-fire. This madness must stop."


"Our relationship with Israel is special and historic," he said. "But it need not and cannot be at the expense of our Arab and Muslim relationships. That is an irresponsible and dangerous false choice."

Where are the Dems on this? Shilling AIPAC talking points! Why would the ME benefit if the Dems win a majority in the House? Wont we get more of the same Cheneyite policies.

so Chuck Hagal is surprised that "thousands of soldiers" wont be coming home as bushco said they would ???

hey Chuck, george LIES, a LOT

other than some fantasy plans by delusional generals, whay exactly would lead anybody to believe we could reduce our troop numbers in Iraq ???

deaths of American soldiers, pretty much steady

deaths of iraqi civilians, steadily rising at an ever increasing rate

numbers of Iraqi troops trained, steady at ZERO since day one

which of those factors indicates success ???

Yeah -- when Shrub puts US troops into the "border zone" the Israelis are trying to conquer, the Dems are going to be shitfaced supporters and the only public voices in opposition will rally around Hagel.

Well maybe things won't get that bad, but I wouldn't bet against some version of this.

The Dems have had YEARS to find an slightly anti-war weaselling position on Iraq -- they are incapable of doing the same if Bush leads us into war for Israel. And it could happen.

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