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February 17, 2006


Now that we've dispensed with the red herring of declassification, let me ask a more interesting question:

Who are the (at least) three journalists to whom Libby and another Bush official leaked NIE information?

One, we know, is Judy.

There are another several possibilities for the other (at least) two.

Libby may have referred to the NIE during his conversation with Novak during the week of July 7, in which he claims he was attacking Frances Fragos Townsend. This would make sense timing wise, because it would place both NIE leak conversations on July 7 or 8, at the beginning of the week.

Libby may have mentioned the NIE to Cooper on July 12. This would make sense, since there's a significant part of Cooper's conversation with Libby that Fitzgerald retains interest in (given the redactions in the various documents). But the conversation was via the phone, not in person, so if Libby leaked NIE information at this point, then he only did it verbally; he didn't show Cooper anything.

Libby may have caused Cathie Martin to share contents of the NIE with Walter Pincus in a July 12 conversation. This would make sense, because Cathie Martin is the kind of person Libby might reasonably be considered to cause to share contents.

Libby may have caused Ari to share contents of the NIE. Same logic as above. Ari was apparently tasked with responding to Wilson's op-ed, so it would make sense that Libby would direct Ari in this way. Also, in the July 9 gaggle, Ari talks like he has seen the CIA report of Joe Wilson's trip. So it may be that Libby gave Ari a document dump of things to reference while doing pressers in Africa.

Libby may have caused Rove to share contents of the NIE with Rove on July 11. This would make sense given Rove's comment about wanting to declassify something. But can Libby really cause Rove to do something? (Also, I still thiink Rove told Novak and Cooper that they would be declassifying the Wilson trip report, which they never did, and not the NIE.)


Thank you for stating the obvious (and I mean that with all sincerity). There's going to be a concerted effort to bamboozle the public about the clear distinction between leaking and declassification. It's long been recognized that the President has the authority to arbitrarily declassify information. We just saw Bush do this with information about an NSA spying program. Bush could have gone on television and outed Valerie Plame to the world. That would have been morally reprehensible and politically stupid, but it would have been legal. It was NOT legal for Bush and Cheney to authorize Libby to selectively leak details of a classified document (and lie about other details). It was NOT legal for Bush and Cheney to authorize Libby to expose the identity of NOC CIA operative.

Declassification is a public act with clear accountability. The leaking of the aluminum tube story, the NIE, and Valerie Plame's identity were all part of an evil plot. We need to be clear about this. This isn't politics as usual. This isn't hardball. This is a story about a group of men and women who have conspired to subvert our system of government. There are a whole lot of people who support this administration out of ignorance and fear. Truth is on our side. I salute you for your efforts in shining the light on the darkness that is the Bush administration.


I think POTUS and Veep can declassify. But the person who classified information in the first place does get some say, normally.

Recall that Novak and Cooper were both told BushCo was going to declassify information; Novak seems to have been told the trip report would be declassified. But BushCo never did this. I'm fairly sure that's because they were squabbling with Tenet over whether or not they could do that. And in the case of the trip report, I don't think they succeeded in declassifying. Now maybe they didn't do it because it would have really caused a revolt on the part of the CIA. Or maybe the CIA just has final word on issues affecting sources and methods.


I agree that they can declassify. Although the original classifier has some say, the President, as head of the executive branch, can overrule any executive branch official (let's face it, if he really believed something should be declassified, he could just fire the classifier and get somebody else to do the job). I'm not sure that kind of authority can be delegated the VP, but it's really beside the point. The real point is that the information in question wasn't declassified when it was leaked. Declassification is an official public act. The declassified information is then public information. That's not what happened in the case of the aluminum tubes, the NIE, or Plame's outing. We can't let these Rovian smears hide under the rubric of declassification. The reason they didn't declassify the stuff you mention isn't because the CIA has the final word. The reason they didn't do it was because they don't want to take responsibility for it.

Very interesting. Back from another thread, I'm still wondering if Judy Miller ever had the clearance she thinks she did. I still believe, in many cases, they may have just been leaking to her, telling her it was okay because she was "cleared," and she was too stupid to know the difference.

"Showing a classified document to just three journalists is not declassification. It is a leak."
The WaPo has an online political chat starting in about 40 minutes and I am submitting your statements. I'd submit it with attribution to you and tnh, but I think that would lessen the slim chances that the WaPo will print it.

If Cheney (or anyone else) declassified NIEs, can copies of those declassified documents now be requested under the FOIA? Has anyone filed the necessary paperwork? This would seem to be a way to flush out Cheney and make the administration say whether any NIEs were declassified, and by whom.

ew - Totally persuasive on the central point. A side point to consider is the question of who actually declassified parts of the NIE when they releaed it on July 18 (or whenever it was precisely), because it was one of the most strange moments in the whole episode. Unless I'm mistaken, the White House handed to reporters information which actually seemed to undermine the case they were making, as they included the famous misplaced INR dissent and other dissenting material from the NIE in what they released. Reporters went nuts, if I'm reading the record right. So my guess is that it was not anyone in the White House who actually did the declassifying, but rather either Tenet or the relevant agencies who contributed their bits to the NIE. (I am working on the assumption, from my recollection, that it was not the whole NIE but only selected bits that were declassified and released on July 18. If I'm wrong on that, my point is gutted.)

My immediate guess about who else Libby caused to leak the NIE was Martin-to-Pincus.

There's a new filing from Fitzgerald out - his response to Libby's team's motions on discovery. Maguire's got a copy over at JOM. As it was just filed yesterday, i am encouraged by all the language about the continuing investigation, and protecting the strategy and direction of it. Fitzgerald calls out Libby's team on the graymail angle twice (15 and 25). And there are some interesting arguments over the issue of the damage done by Plame's outing and its relevance not only to the present charges but even to a charge of IIPA or Espionage Act violations (26-27, esp. 27n10).

I agree that the declassification question is a red herring. The veep probably does have the authority to declassify information. But there's no indication that he did that before Libby went out with Plame's identity. Nor has he claimed that he did that.

There are a number of larger problems here. This administration classifies so much stuff that it gives itself an enormous playground to declassify for political motives.

I'm hoping to go into this in more detail on my blog in the next few days. I'll send a trackback if I do.

I'm glad you're taking up this question, EW.

I think the question of whether Plame's identity was ever declassified, as suggested by Pete Yost in this AP article, can be pretty summarily dismissed. After all, Fitz explicitly stated at the Oct. 28 press conference that "I will confirm that her association with the CIA was classified at that time through July 2003." As you say, this question pertains only to the NIE (and other Iraq intelligence), not Plame's outing.

As one of the people trying to hammer home the difference between a leak and declassification, I completely agree that the key issue here, even if Cheney has the authority to unilaterally declassify something like the NIE, is whether in fact the NIE was actually declassified by June 2003. I can think of all kinds of reasons why Cheney, even if he had the power to declassify it unilaterally, would not in fact take such a fairly momentous step. Given the history of the Admin's and OVP's leaking of classified info on an unprecedented scale, I doubt that it even occurred to Cheney that he "should" do such a thing.

In other words, I think it very, very likely, whatever Cheney's declassification authority, that the NIE was in fact classified at the time Libby showed it to reporters in June/July 2003.

That said, I'm not sure I find your arguments in this direction conclusive.

(1) Do we know for a fact that the NIE (actually, only portions of it) was formally declassified on 18 July 2003? We do know that portions of the NIE were publicly released on that date (and that other portions had been declassified in order to produce the 4 October 2002 "White Paper"). Can we be sure that reporters aren't just assuming that the public-release date is the same as the declassification date?

(2) It's entirely possible that the portions of the NIE Libby was, er, disclosing to reporters were different from those portions which were declassified and publicly released in mid-July. In fact, given that Libby was trying to justify the Admin's case for war, it seems quite likely that he wasn't disclosing at least some of the parts which were released in mid-July, because those portions included the State Dept dissents, the judgement that Saddam if threatened could be driven to using his alleged WMDs, etc. I think on this question I'm inclined to agree with Jeff's hypothesis as to who was responsible for the declassification of those portions and the interesting political effect that this had. At any rate, it's at least theoretically possible that Cheney declassified more convenient portions of the NIE for distribution to select stenographers and that the portions later publicly released were declassified by someone else.

Like I said, I agree that the NIE was almost surely still classified when Libby was leaking to reporters. I just don't know that we can demonstrate that conclusively, yet.


I agree, I don't think I've proved the case (I changed the title of this from it's original "proof" to "evidence" for just that reason).

I like Roosevelt Dem's suggestion, that we FOIA the NIE. Much of it has not been released, classified or no. So if they refuse to hand it to us, then we would know pretty definitively that it is not now classified (note, BushCo is famous for retroactively classifying things, like Sibel Edmonds' testimony, so it still wouldn't be proof, but it'd be a pretty good indication).

By the by, I'm not really sure why everybody is so quick to say that Cheney did have the authority to unilaterally declassify information for which he was not the original classifying authority. (As someone who's been interested in this question of late, I really would like to hear people's reasoning, as I'm trying to nail this one down for myself.) And I do think this is a question of rather considerable political significance, though it might strike professional Plame-ologists as a distraction. ;)

In part, I think, the "red herring" stems from the very ambiguous word "authorised" (Waas used it in his article, albeit with the appropriate shudder quotes). It makes it sound as if the person doing the authorising had, well, the authority to do so. Many people read it and assume that so long as Cheney in fact had the authority to declassify the NIE, the act of "authorising" (directing, etc.) Libby to disclose it to reporters is ipso facto tantamount to declassifying it. Which, of course, it isn't.

William Ockham is right, though I'd amend his formulation. Declassification is an official (though not necessarily public) executive action. Presumably there must be some formal, official record of it somewhere -- not least on the declassified document itself. (Here for instance is one DoD primer on rules for marking classified documents; it states (near the bottom) that "Classified information that is downgraded or declassified should be promptly and conspicuously marked to indicate the change.") This need not apply to the document as a whole but can apply to specific paragraphs with specific classification status. So it should be a straightforward matter of record whether in fact (portions of) the NIE was (were) declassified by June 2003, and if so, when exactly and by whom.

The point that it was A LEAK and not declassification when a few select reporters got content of the NIE from Libby was made forcefully by Richard Ben-Veniste on Blitzer's show last week. I was struck, actually, by the way Wolf handled this exchange that included Jerk DiGenova. Wolf actually phrased questions and paced the exchange to give Ben-Veniste the opportunity to score this point with force. Maybe because it was making DiGenova look like he had a bad case of acute - itching, burning - hemorrhoids. That Wolf is such a cutup sometimes. Here's the xscript:


What is amazing to me is the last few weeks we have learned:

1. Libby did lie. Period. He admitted it. His excuses are he was too busy and he was confused. So he confessed to two out of the three major crimes he was indicted on! And yet the National Review crowd is still trying to spin it away. (It's like watching the band play on the Titanic. "Hey, what iceberg?")

2. Plame was covert. (Notice that doesn't come up as much on the right wing sites now.)

3. The VPs office knew the Niger info was bogus and STILL tried to smear Wilson.

4. The VP office was aware who Wilson was before the war started - and targeted him (ouch) early.

5. The VP thinks he can selectively declassify whatever information he wants -even if he is outing a covert agent to smear her husband.

6. Guns don't kill people, but the VP sure tries.

narexbyrnes -- replace that "STILL" with "therefore". ;)

I'm guessing the aluminum tube "press release" would have come before the Executive Order change including the VP (March 2003)?

Perhaps they realized they were breaking the law, modified things to include the VP after the fact, then happily went off declassifying more stuff (Plame) for partisan political purposes?

Plame was covert. (Notice that doesn't come up as much on the right wing sites now.)

I beg to differ, I just encountered a reprise of the Plame outed herself long before July 2003 theme at a site - can't remember where exactly - just this week. They'll surrender this the same day they surrender the idea that Vince Foster was killed by Hillary.


Superb point.

I heard Diane Rehm dealing with this today. Tony Blankley was on, claiming that this executive order happened some vague time around 9/11. I almost spit. No, Tony, it happened just as Libby was dreaming up his slam attack on Wilson. And in any case, significantly after they leaked the aluminum tube report to Judy on September 7 2002 to prep their September 8 morning talk show appearances.

If you check out the executive order, it says declassification is a 'process' that must have the approval of the head of the agency that originally classified the information. In the case of NIE, since several agencies are involved in its creation, maybe declassification proceeds with the approval of all participating directors?

When asked whether he had ever unilaterally declassfied information, Cheney said he "didn't want to get into that" and noted the executive order that gave the Vice President "classification authority". Cheney parses his words carefully - i.e. he is a real good liar. Note he said nothing about the declassification process.

Aside: Cheney is in the habit of answering this way. Check out the News Hour interview when Lehre asked him about the insurgency in Iraq. His response was canned and never actually addressed the question.

There are specific guidelines about declassification issued by the Director of the Information Security Oversight Office. We need to look at those guidelines and find out what kind of documentation they archive.

Information Security Oversight Office
National Archives and Records Administration
Seventh and Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20408
phone (202)357-5250

This also might suggest that Novak went directly to Tenet, as the classifying agency director, to get a final answer on the Plame "declassification" before finishing his article about Wilson.

Declassification is not always a condition precedent to valid disclosure of classified information.

Your theory and analysis is great as usual. But, perhaps Cheney was trying to distract a bit more. There are options available to provide classified information to people without declassifying the information. Bush’s executive order has this exemption:

“In an emergency, when necessary to respond to an imminent threat to life or in defense of the homeland, the agency head or any designee may authorize the disclosure of classified information to an individual or individuals who are otherwise not eligible for access.”

Moreover, such action does not constitute “declassified” information:

“Information disclosed under this provision or implementing directives and procedures shall not be deemed declassified as a result of such disclosure or subsequent use by a recipient.”

So, there are ways for Cheney to spread the information without any declassification. So, Cheney could have used this section to authorize Libby to disclose the classified information to Miller under claim that Wilson/Plame presented a threat to national security by putting a damper on Bush’s war case.

The georgia10 piece unfortunately focusses on the Plame outing rather than the NIE. But I wanted to pick up on one point:

Do you recall that when it became clear Rove had leaked the information to reports, there was a flurry of articles about how "upset" Bush was, that he felt betrayed by Karl? In the New York Daily News (yes, I know) there was a hint that the anger wasn't at the disclosure, but at the fact the Office of the President was tied to the leak....

Let me use this to get at one reason why I think this question of Cheney's authority to declassify at will might be important. Even if EO 13292 doesn't give Cheney blanket declassification authority, it still provides him with a few ways to have declassified the NIE without Tenet's formal approval. Cheney could, for instance, have had Bush's vast declassification authority formally delegated to him (thereby becoming a "declassification authority" by the terms of Section 6.1(l) of EO 13292). But it strikes me that each of these methods ultimately ties the action to Bush himself.

So if the NIE was in fact declassified by June/03, and if the CIA didn't review and authorise the declassification, and if Cheney doesn't have the authority to declassify information he didn't originally classify, then it seems (a) either Cheney directed an illegal leak or (b) Bush was involved in the process. In case (b), the disclosure of the NIE was legal, but it's unquestionably a political scandal, one that now has Bush's fingerprints all over it.

(Of course, we should continue to keep in mind that Waas said "Cheney and other White House 'superiors'".)

KM, I usually look at those NYDaily News stories as volleys fired by Cheney, letting Bush and Rove know they're in it up to their eyeballs. I've thought this since I saw Andrea Mitchell out Cheney as Tom DeFrank's source on "Hardball" (at least this was my perception at the time, for reasons I've gone into here). Even if at first you don't see a DeFrank story through that prism, it's helpful to ask, "What's in it for Cheney?"

Clarification please.
My understanding is that the IIPA is unique in that it specifically ties the hands of the president.
The president may not release the identity of covert operatives.
Same would apply to delegated authority.

Question from the hinterland: there has been news, speculation, fact(?) that Plame was working on Iran as well in her position at CIA. Could the "outing of Plame" be related to a possible attempt by the Administration to cut off the flow of any actual facts from the CIA that would run counter to the Administration's case that Iran is, was, might be a "threat" in the same way that Iraq was a "threat" regarding WMD's? Sacrifice Plame, as well as all her contacts to protect the lies in a runup to war?

This administration so much wants to go to war that any truth which counters its arguments is just so much "trash." Discredit the truthtellers to push the argument for war.



It's not just Larisa's article suggesting BushCo were trying (or at least were willing) to take out all sources of good intelligence. Don't forget that James Risen says Iran has rolled up our network of agents three times in the last while. Also, one of Plame's colleagues has a wrongful termination suit against the CIA, saying he was framed and fired because he kept complaining that his intelligence (asserting, among other things, that Iraq didn't have a nukes program and that Iraqi centrifuges were readily available on the black market) wasn't getting circulated.

Antiaristo makes a point related to what is said here.

There are different kinds of classification, and different kinds of authority for declassification as a result. I am not looking into the legal details of classification. I'm willing to believe Steven Aftergood's understanding of this point. This sort of thing is his full-time job.

So if Plame was an undercover agent, that would have been classified by the CIA; I'm not sure of the legal authority, but it would most likely be one of the specialized authorities like the Atomic Energy Act and therefore, according to Aftergood, not subject to executive action.

That makes a lot of sense. The information classified by the agencies involved in national security work (building nuclear weapons, running spies) forms a network that can easily be messed up by arbitrary declassification.

"...to selectively leak details of a classified document..." William Ockham | February 17, 2006 at 10:06
Does anyone know if it's legal to disclose unclassified parts of a classified document? I'm sincerely curious. KM seems to be hinting at the fringe of this, too.

"I beg to differ, I just encountered a reprise of the Plame outed herself long before July 2003 theme..."
Meteor Blades | February 17, 2006 at 14:23
Valerie has admitted publicly (Vanity Fair? I'm not sure. If I can find a link, I'll post it.) that she (near certainly illegally) outed herself to Joe when they were dating. I also wonder where Kristof got the idea that she was a sharpshooting, undercover babe. Also seems to be common knowledge, though I don't really know if it's correct, that she was outed by Ames.

"...since I saw Andrea Mitchell out Cheney..." SaltinWound | February 17, 2006 at 17:22.
Ms. Greenspan is in this up to her eyeballs. Too obvious a conflict of interest to lend her any credibility.

I would like to chime in in agreement that, whether Cheney's power to declassify is "real" (i.e., based on the text of the new EO), or imagined (based on his clout in the Executive Bramch), it is a distraction to this case.

Check the opeining clause of the Espionage Act:

[793] (a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation...

Try to picture the burden a prosecutor would have in indicting Libby for leaking on July 8 some info that was properly declassified on July 18.

"Cheney OK'ed it" puts a bit of a wall between Libby and "intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States".

So does the fact that the info was, apparently, properly declassified soon after Libby leaked it.

Now, can Fitzgerald indict Cheney, or must Cheney be impeached? Who knows.

declassification is more than just a public act, it has a specific process

george bush can't just declassify a NOC Agent by fiat

there is a specific legal protocol, that is designed to protect associates of the NOC Agent, in case public disclosure becomes emminent

cheney is just trying to throw more sand in your eyes

freepatriot | February 18, 2006 at 14:27: "george bush can't just declassify a NOC Agent by fiat" Do you see anyone, anywhere, right, left or middle, claiming this happened, Freepatriot, or are you just trying to throw out a red herring ("cheney is just trying to throw more sand in your eyes") of your own?

Somewhat on topic, wonder if anyone here noticed yesterdays' E+P article describing Fitzgerald's responses to Libby request for production of documents: specifically, Fitzgerald is adamant about protecting reporters' sources, which Libby's litigators are trying to expose; Fitzgerald also characterizes the attempt to subpoena all the Presidential Daily Briefings from an eleven month period as the [anticipated] 'graymail' gambit (Fitzgerald's term, amazingly enough) to force discovery into mistrial or else push the entire proceedings into chambers away from the public. There are a few more points in the article; maybe Fitzgerald's and Libby's 'pleadings' are posted to the court site already.


You asked (if I may paraphrase) if anyone is claiming that George Bush ordered the outing of Valerie Plame, a NOC CIA operative. I am (although there is the remote possibility that he's only an accessory after the fact). Let's take a few minutes to review the facts of the case (items from the Libby indictment and elsewhere that no one, not even his defense team, has challenged):

Richard Bruce Cheney, Vice President of the United States of America, told I. Lewis Libby that Joseph Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, was an employee of the covert branch of the CIA. Cheney and Libby participated in multiple discussions concerning how to respond to Wilson and his criticisms of the Administration's handling of the war. After these discussions, Libby spoke to several reporters and disclosed Plame's affiliation. Despite the differences between Libby's testimony and the reporters' testimony, there is no doubt that Libby did the wrong thing. No government official should confirm the identity of NOC operative. Also, I don't think anyone seriously believes that Karl Rove wasn't involved in revealing Plame's identity.

Given those facts, we need merely to examine Bush's actions immediately following the leak and his reaction to the Libby indictment to ascertain his involvement in the conspiracy. If you take a look at Bush's public statements immediately after the Plame outing, you will see that there are only two real possibilities. Either, Cheney, Libby, and Rove managed to keep him completely in the dark or he was already participating in the cover-up of their actions. If they had successfully hidden their actions from Bush in 2003, what possible explanation is there for his failure to act decisively in 2005, after the Libby indictment? Bush's actions since the Libby indictment are really only consistent with the idea that he is a co-conspirator and that outing Valerie Plame was exactly what he wanted to happen. If you want to posit that he's merely an accessory after the fact, then you have to assume he's really a tool in the hands of the conspirators.

No government official should confirm the identity of NOC operative.

William, how do you account for this

Leak of Agent's Name Causes Exposure of CIA Front Firm
By Walter Pincus and Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, October 4, 2003; Page A03

The leak of a CIA operative's name has also exposed the identity of a CIA front company, potentially expanding the damage caused by the original disclosure, Bush administration officials said yesterday.

The company's identity, Brewster-Jennings & Associates, became public because it appeared in Federal Election Commission records on a form filled out in 1999 by Valerie Plame, the case officer at the center of the controversy, when she contributed $1,000 to Al Gore's presidential primary campaign.

After the name of the company was broadcast yesterday, administration officials confirmed that it was a CIA front. They said the obscure and possibly defunct firm was listed as Plame's employer on her W-2 tax forms in 1999 when she was working undercover for the CIA. Plame's name was first published July 14 in a newspaper column by Robert D. Novak that quoted two senior administration officials. They were critical of her husband, former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, for his handling of a CIA mission that undercut President Bush's claim that Iraq had sought uranium from the African nation of Niger for possible use in developing nuclear weapons.

The Justice Department began a formal criminal investigation of the leak Sept. 26.

The wahington Post hid this story last November, but there is a copy archived at Truthout. You can get more analysis here

William Ockham | February 18, 2006 at 16:34: "Given those facts..."
Not so fast, my friend. If those are "facts", why hasn't Fitz chosen to prosecute based on those "facts"?


The article you refer to came out after the damage had been done. In my view, it confirms exactly what I asserted.


Are you serious? Do you dispute any of the items I mentioned? Mr. Fitzgerald has, of course, chosen to prosecute Mr. Libby based on the very facts I cited (I would have thought that would be obvious to anyone, since I referenced the Libby indictment in my previous comment). Are you asking why he hasn't yet indicted Mr. Cheney or Mr. Bush? I can think of many good reasons why he hasn't yet done that (and may never do that). I have some questions for you:

Do you believe that Cheney and Libby discussed Valerie Plame's employment in June 2003, as alleged in the Libby indictment? If you don't believe that, please explain why Fitzgerald included it in the indictment and neither Libby or Cheney has denied it.

Do you believe that Libby discussed Valerie Plame (Wilson's wife) with various reporters in June and July 2003, before the Novak article was published? Libby, Miller, and Cooper have all acknowledged these conversations.

When George Bush said that he wanted to get to the bottom of the leak and ordered everyone in the White House to cooperate with the investigation, what should Cheney, Rove, and Libby have done? If George Bush was serious about that statement, what should he have done when the Libby indictment was released?

Suggest you read the article again. You're being taken in by the spin.
This was the first time the name Brewster-Jennings surfaced.

William Ockham | February 18, 2006 at 16:34: "Richard Bruce Cheney.........No government official should confirm the identity of NOC operative. "

If any of this is "fact" as you assert, why weren't any of the "conspirators", including Libby, indicted re the outing? I'm not saying none of it is fact. I am saying that Fitz, who knows considerably more than you on this subject, has apparently chosen not to indict on the outing. Why?


You are mistaken. The article you cite is available at http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A40012-2003Oct3?language=printer

As the article makes quite clear, the name Brewster Jennings first surfaced on CNN when Robert Novak completed his hatchet job on Valerie Plame. The article says:

The name of the CIA front company was broadcast yesterday by Novak, the syndicated journalist who originally identified Plame. Novak, highlighting Wilson's ties to Democrats, said on CNN that Wilson's "wife, the CIA employee, gave $1,000 to Gore and she listed herself as an employee of Brewster-Jennings & Associates."


I take Mr. Fitzgerald at his word. At the news conference announcing the Libby indictment, he said that he was unable to complete his investigation because Mr. Libby obstructed it. It is entirely possible that Mr. Libby's obstruction will prevent the prosecutor from ever completing the investigation. I'm sure that's what Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush hope. That doesn't prevent us from analyzing the available facts and drawing the rather obvious conclusions. If you think I've got this wrong, show me the error of my ways.

Yes, you are correct. They have put it back recently and I should have checked it out. My apologies for the mistake.

However, abstract from the spin.
This story was published on October 4.
So when do you believe Pincus and Allen spoke to the Bush administration?
October 3, yes?
The same day that Novak broadcast the name.
Read his Townhall column. He has no data.
The data is in the WaPo story.

Can you not recognize a co-ordinated leak when you see one?

Take my word for it. The Post hid this story back in November.
Obviously the problem was "fixed".

But what pisses me off is that Fitzgerald won't touch it.
The problem for the Cheney administration was not Plame. The problem was the Brewster Jennings operation.

And even if you stick to your view that it was Novak rather than the WaPo (read by ALL foreign intelligence services, paper of record and all that) it was done AFTER the DoJ opened its investigation.

So what sort of game is Fitzgerald playing?

William Ockham | February 18, 2006 at 22:10: "I take Mr. Fitzgerald at his word." His word, like her position was classified. But when Libby's team asked for proof in discovery, no document exists to prove same. That word?

Try to picture the burden a prosecutor would have in indicting Libby for leaking on July 8 some info that was properly declassified on July 18.

"Cheney OK'ed it" puts a bit of a wall between Libby and "intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States".

So does the fact that the info was, apparently, properly declassified soon after Libby leaked it.

First off, a point of detail: Libby testified to disclosing the content of the NIE to reporters as early as June 2003.

As for attempts to use the Espionage Act to downplay the legal and/or political consequences of this leaking:

Is it really necessary to repeat the fact that to our knowledge only a small fraction of the NIE has in fact to date been "properly declassified"?

Or to repeat my suggestion above that the parts which Libby e.g. disclosed to Miller were likely not to have been the parts which were later declassified?

So how does TM speak with such confidence about Libby having leaked "on July 8 some info that was properly declassified on July 18"?

But let's assume for a moment that the parts the NIE subsequently declassified just happen (conveniently!) to exactly cover those which Libby disclosed to journalists. Let's see what TM's arguments about the Espionage Act would entail. An Administration leaks classified information -- for purposes of pure propaganda, I might add -- and then, to cover its derriere, subsequently declassifies that same information when the doodoo hits the fan (2 days, conveniently, after David Corn writes a column drawing attention to the potential illegality of the Admin's actions re: the whole Wilson affair). This act of declassification is then retroactively to help immunise the original crime?

So what's stopping any Administration from doing this any time? What then is the distinction between classified and unclassified information worth?

Finally, let's remember that Waas was not just talking about the leak of the NIE. He is also talking to a systematic pattern of Cheney-Libby leaks of classified intelligence both prior to and after the war. Are we going to defend that, too? Is Cheney's "OK" a "wall" between Libby and the Espionage Act or a big, gaping sluice in the neocon dike?


You've completely lost me. I have no idea what you're talking about. I'll lay this out as simply as possible. I'll add numbers to make it convenient for you. Just tell me which statements you dispute (or are unconvinced about):

1. Valerie Plame worked for the CIA.
2. That fact (Plame's employment) was classified.
3. In June 2003, Richard B. Cheney, Vice-President of the United States, told his employee, I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, that Plame worked for the Counter Proliferation Division of the CIA.
4. Before Robert Novak's article (outing Plame) was published, Libby discussed Valerie Plame and her connection to the CIA with Judy Miller, Matt Cooper, Karl Rove, and Ari Fleischer.
5. During the investigation of the leak, Libby made several statements to investigators that turned out to be false, according to his own contemporaneous notes.
6. Libby was indicted for making those false statements and obstructing justice.
7. The investigation into the leak has not yet concluded.

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