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January 11, 2006


Okay: take for granted Lieberman is almost certain for re-election -- there's a poll out today, showing he's slipped, but is at a still formidable 62% approve (the slippage, though, is dangerously within his own party). Also accept that a Democratic party fighting to wrest control of two chambers of Congress really shouldn't have as its top priority picking a fight with one of its comfortable incumbents. I know all this...

Yet...I can't help remembering 1978. A little known right-winger named Jeffrey Bell challenged incumbent Republican Clifford Case (a Snowe/Jeffords Republican) in NJ, and beat him in the primary. In the short run, this was a fiasco for the GOP: Bill Bradley easily took out Bell in November, and held the seat for 18 years. But, funny thing: two years later, another rightie, named D'Amato, took out Jake "The Institution" Javits in NY, and he and a gazillion other Republicans ended up capturing the Senate -- at the time, a far more unlikely outcome than the Dems taking it over today (D'Amato had help from the Reagan landslide, as well as Javits' staying on the Liberal line and siphoning off decisive votes from Liz Holtzman). This one election changed the direction of politics in this country -- setting us off on a course we still labor to escape today.

What I'm saying is, maybe there can be a point to sending a message to the party...making its members understand that being unresponsive to core needs -- even, in Lieberman's case, defying them -- is not a successful long-term strategy. There are things this party has to stand for, and too many in Washington seem in need of a two-by-four to the head to catch on to that. A Lieberman challenge that at least scares the guy might serve the purpose.

Sometimes, sacrificing a pawn can pay off if it leads to capturing the king.

From what I hear, Joe is very aware of the fact that he's being primaried. Whether it chastens him in any way remains to be seen. I think it's a great thing to do. I just think we have to be realistic in terms of what to expect. From the interview, Joe's learned nothing useful from the experience to this point.

Well, my personal dislike of Lieberman is more of a personal aversion to holier-than-thou-ness. I think one of the biggest character flaws in politicians and public officials is a lack of humility.

I wish I didn't have to waste any of my political donations, but contributing to Loserman's primary opponent is something I have to do.

The rest, will be spent against the Rethuglicans.

However, in Joe's case--there is no differnce.

If the Democrats were to get to 51 members in the Senate after Nov 06, Joe's the kind of Traitor who would show his true colors and drop theh pretense about being a Democrat. In this case, we'd loose the possibility of holding the administration accountable FOR ANYTHING.

Pew has Bush at 38. There is no 'comeback'. That story is a load of rubbish.

speaking of polls, this is the link to q-poll for joe.

The key in Connecticut is the Jewish vote. Lieberman's support for Bush's policies are based on Zionism. Can Lamont make any inroads with that constituency?

Even if Lamont (or another primary challenger) doesn't win, he or she can force Holy Joe back to the left, so it would be good for the Party.

I'm all for the primary, but the Jewish vote is diverse and not that large. CT is a small state, more conservative than many folks perceive in the sense of not liking change, and Joe's a Household Name. When we're talking primary, the GOTV part is important, since primaries don't get out a lot of vote. So, as always, seniors are a bigger key, i.e. Dem seniors pissed off at Medicare rules and drug plans, than the Jewish vote if there is one.

The Quinnipiac poll in this morning's Hartford Courant shows JoeMentum at 55% among Democrats falling SHARPLY over the past 12 months from a 70% rating. This is not a comparison with other candidates...this is strickly Lieberman's standing with his own party. A Democratic primary would be devastating for him at this point if he continues his support for the war. The war is becoming a HUGE issue with voters. If Weicker runs, Lieberman is in deep dodo, not so sure about Lamont.

Weickers out,

But he'll be standing right next to Lamont on stage when he announces and will be all over the state helping his campaign.

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