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July 10, 2005

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from Pete seeger's Clearwater on the Hudson to Greenpeace on the high seas, environmentalism isn't dead. In fact, it's mainstream.

Why else would tony Blair support Kyoto?

Tony Blair may be a complete wimp when it comes to Bush, but he's pretty forceful when it comes to environmental issues.

I was pleased to see this story recalled.

It is one of the sharpest reminders of what the West, not just the United States, has done to futher its interests.

It is extraordinary to remember that the French were determined to have their own nuclear bomb. To them it represented prestige at the negotiating tables of the world, the status that de Gaulle craved and independence from the Americans. It marked them out as a world power.

How interesting must they sound in the dialogue with Iran today. Just as the UK, who used Australia as its testing base, must also sound.

I remember the bombing vividly. I was in the middle of a German emersion program, thinking I spoke the language reasonably well. Then the bombing that summer threw me for a loop. Days of discussion in class, and none of it seemed to make sense: Why would the French government blow up a Greenpeace ship? I thought I was suddenly lost in translation. Eventually I figured out that it was the event itself, and not the language, that I did not understand. Still don't understand. What kind of madness led the Defence Minister to think that was even thinkable?

Keith Barratt - Of course, I knew that France had nukes, but today was the first time I had read about the extent of their testing. It was nothing compared to the U.S., Russia, or China, but it was unbelievable, all the same, in terms of environmental damage.

France's arsenal is sizable, especially considering that they're a relatively small country.

More on France's nuclear forces here.

It's very lame, but I don't remember anything about the bombing of the Rainbow Warrior. I was 15 at the time, and must have read it in the newspaper or heard it on the news, but I don't remember it at all.

What I find very odd is that if you take all the proven acts of covert aggression against countries, their institutions and their leaders in the last fifty years, it reads like a conspiracy theorist's dream. Yet ask the average - and not unintelligent - person in the street and they have no consciousness of these events. It is as if they purposely want to disregard them, not want to believe that their representatives in the form of their government could engage in such acts.

Public selective amnesia is an extraodinary thing and makes even more difficult rational discussion.

I remember being assessed once on my views regarding such events over lunch by what I believe was a CIA man whilst being interviewed for a job by a US corporation active in South America and whose meddling in regime change became notorious. "Was I not shocked that a company might engage in such activities", I was asked.

I pleaded lack of knowledge - which seemed the standard and probably genuine answer of most candidates - was later offered the job.... and very firmly declined it!

What I find very odd is that if you take all the proven acts of covert aggression against countries, their institutions and their leaders in the last fifty years, it reads like a conspiracy theorist's dream. Yet ask the average - and not unintelligent - person in the street and they have no consciousness of these events. It is as if they purposely want to disregard them, not want to believe that their representatives in the form of their government could engage in such acts.

Public selective amnesia is an extraodinary thing and makes even more difficult rational discussion.

I remember being assessed once on my views regarding such events over lunch by what I believe was a CIA man whilst being interviewed for a job by a US corporation active in South America and whose meddling in regime change became notorious. "Was I not shocked that a company might engage in such activities", I was asked.

I pleaded lack of knowledge - which seemed the standard and probably genuine answer of most candidates - was later offered the job.... and very firmly declined it!

My apologies for the double post - a common failure of newbies here, I believe.

Whilst apologising, can I repeat my compliments on the site - and for having brought together some of the contributors who represent Kossacks with whom I feel at ease and from whom I learn the most.

Interestingly the only two terrorist events to have taken place in Australia and New Zealand in recent times have been carried out by governments ie. the Rainbow Warrior bombing was perped by the French govt and the Sydney Hilton bombing (1978) which killed three is now almost universally regarded as having been carried out by either the NSW police and/or the Austrlian security organisation, ASIO.

This is in line with the 17th May 1974 Dublin-Monaghan bombings which killed 33 and were carried out with at least the connivance of the RUC and British security forces.

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