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May 28, 2005

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What a lineup! That's one of the first encouraging things I've seen about health care in ages. Of course it doesn't mean anytyhing will happen with these numbskulls in charge of Congress and the WH, but it could form the basis for some kind of widely-backed legislation in the future, either by a Dem chamber in Congress or a Dem President.

I'd love to see some practical heath-care legislation move out of a Dem House or Senate in 2007, and put the pressure on the WH and Congressional Repubs, and have an important chunk of corporate America on our side. This is a huge potential wedge issue on the coalition scale, with the Repubs siding with insurance, PhARMA and the small business people and the Dems picking up just about everyone else. I look forward to that fight.

"GM backs Dem for WH"

sweet.

I would think that, depending on how it is played, the Dems could pick up small business as well. They don't like having to pay for health insurance either. Having the gov't pick up health care costs above a certain level (catastrophic care) and requiring those with means to carry a high-deductible policy for mid range care (kind of like mandatory auto insurance) is one possibility. Another issue is having a better grip on what treatments are best to increase efficiencies in the system, which is now comparatively inefficient.

And Remember Robin Cook's NYT op-ed about how genetic screening will force single payer health care because otherwise there is too much potential for discrimination.

In a perfect world, finance reform would be matched by acess reform and quality reform. With all the players at the table, it's possible they'll all be addressed, rather than the shotgun approach done now.

a single payor system, however, may still be out of reach.

Well, it seems like most of the push on healthcare is happening at the state level. Vermont's got a single-payer proposal working its way through the legislature, and I hear that Illinois is tackling the problem.

Massachusetts is working on it too. There's a push from a group called Health Care for All which has allied itself with the Greater Boston Interfaith Organization. The GBIO just committed itself to gathering 40,000 signatures to get this on the 2006 ballot as an initiative. The hope is that this will force the legislature to act. For more info, see HCFMA's blog.

thanks, Abby. I suspect single payor systems might be done at the state 'laboratory' level first before it becomes acceptable at the federal level.

"a single payor system, however, may still be out of reach."

It looks to me like this is an effort to head off single-payor at the pass.

praktike, it may be, but if some other good ideas come out of it, and if single payor gets a hearing (even if rejected), it'll be progress where before there was none... just a lot of uninsured Americans; more every year.

The corporations, I think, are more open to ideas than ever before. GM alone has a $5 billion annual problem. And if the corporations buy in, we have the next change in health care, just as they pushed HMOs to control (their) costs.

I'd prefer single payor, but I am curious what will come out of this.

Michael Porter has been trying to tackle this too. I think he may be associated with the Leapfrog Group. Michael Porter would like to see universal coverage, but his main goal is to improve value. He's less concerned with just cutting cost in the short term.

He is very much against single payor, because he thinks that it will cut out innovation. He likes competition, but he seems to believe that what we have now is not good competition, but just cost-shifting. He fears that a single-payor system will just impose price controls, and that that would be bad. If we could convince someone like him, then I think we'd be close to winning the debate on single payer.

I think that in Porter's world, your health plan would be like an advocate, helping you to find the best care for your particular disease.

Does anyone know how we can counteract this innovation canard? (And while Medicare is pretty great in a lot of ways, it's not always great about covering the most effective treatments, particularly for diabetics. I'm not sure what to do about that. Everyone's thoughts are most welcome.)

To clarify, HCFAMA is not backing a single-payor system at this time. They figure that their proposal would cover about 400,000 out of 500,000 currently uninsured. Thhey would pay for it by raising the cigarette tax by 50ยข. Massachusetts has voted down a progressive income tax, and I don't think that the legislature can raise income tax rates without amending the constitution. I'm not sure about that though.

Not sure I like the sounds of this. Practike may be right, a scheme to head off single payor. [Single apyor isnot an immediate option either, but we should be wary of anything that puts us farther off course.]

All the "solutions" seem oriented to driving money into the insurance system, which is where aggregate return on aggregate expenditure goes to die.

Any of several proven universal coverage systems -- fundamentally single payor, with or without fee-for-co-pays and luxury policies around the edges -- would cover everybody, improve outcomes, and reduce public expenditures.

Any of several diversionary policies would increase costs and strengthen entrenched interests ... and that sounds like where this initiative is going.

By meeting in secret, the group has tried to shield itself from political pressures.

Now, where have I heard that before?

"He (Porter) is very much against single payor, because he thinks that it will cut out innovation. He likes competition, but he seems to believe that what we have now is not good competition, but just cost-shifting."

I thought the whole idea about health care was (and is) a competition between us, the public, and sickness and results of injury. What game does Porter think we are playing?


chinese ideogram Danger = crisis + opportunity.

This can turn out very good, very bad or somewhere in the middle. RonK's and stumpy's comments suggest the concentration is only on finance reform (which we don't know... It's clearly the driving force but there may be room for access reform and quality reform as well). The difference (hopefully) between the energy task force and Hillary's project is that there's public input into the process rather than a done deal at the end.

Keep an ear out for more... we know less than we need to about this.

oops... RonK takes me to task on my chinese ideogram analogy for two separate reasons: the third error (inversion) being due to not enough coffee. But see below:

"you are repeating myths, not facts, about Chinese characters. First, Chinese characters do not represent an ideographic writing system. Second, "crisis" does not equal "danger" + "opportunity".""

The user links to this article, which seems authoritative enough. The author has me cheering:

A whole industry of pundits and therapists has grown up around this one grossly inaccurate formulation. A casual search of the Web turns up more than a million references to this spurious proverb. It appears, often complete with Chinese characters, on the covers of books, on advertisements for seminars, on expensive courses for "thinking outside of the box," and practically everywhere one turns in the world of quick-buck business, pop psychology, and orientalist hocus-pocus.

The author actually goes even further than I would:

Those who purvey the doctrine that the Chinese word for "crisis" is composed of elements meaning "danger" and "opportunity" are engaging in a type of muddled thinking that is a danger to society, for it lulls people into welcoming crises as unstable situations from which they can benefit. Adopting a feel-good attitude toward adversity may not be the most rational, realistic approach to its solution.

I encourage accuracy in blogging and am happy to admit to error (especially if it means linking to Mark Schmitt... a bonus, there). Nonetheless, the myth (let's posit that that's what it is) endures because it is apt.

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