Senator Lugar made a really odd slip of the tongue today, in the period after the Bolton vote when everyone was trying to release their stress and become friends again. At least once (and perhaps twice--someone said it a second time), he called Senator Biden "the Chairman."
Perhaps Senator Lugar was expressing how crummy he felt after failing to get a recommendation for Bolton as the nomination moved to the full Senate. Perhaps he was just admitting that he didn't have complete control over his own committee.
In any case, unlike all the Democrats bemoaning Voinovich's cowardice or proclaiming a huge loss today, I'm actually quite pleased about today's result. Whether it was "Chairman" Biden's work or Voinovich's, this was a clear loss for the Bush Administration. And as Bolton's nomination moves from the Committee to the Senate, the entire question of his nomination changes. Further, given all the events transpiring in the Senate of late, the political calculus is likely to be radically different by the time this comes up for a vote (if it does come up for a vote). So whether Voinovich's dodge was cowardice or smart political calculation, I think it might benefit us far more than a straight rejection.
The question before the Committee, after all, was "Is John Bolton qualified to be Ambassador to the UN?" It is a realm where questions of Presidential prerogative are relevent. And it's a realm where few voters pay attention.
But the question before the Senate will be, "Should we send a nominee who clearly lacks broadbased support to the UN?" Or, to put it more simply, "Should we send a nutcase to the UN while all our constituents are watching?" Norm Coleman, who wore a particularly gloomy facial expression at the end of today's hearing, probably sees those questions as radically different.
I'm not saying Coleman will vote against Bolton. He left himself no wiggle room in his support of Bolton today (save the potential sex scandal that could allow him to invoke moral shock). But Hagel, Murkowski, and Chafee all carefully framed their support for Bolton today in terms of "advancing his candidacy to the Senate." At least in the sound bite where they declared that support, they did not announce unequivocal support on the Senate floor.
And it seems that Voinovich may believe some of his colleagues will use the space he has given them.
Voinovich told reporters he would vote against Bolton in the full Senate. Will Bolton win eventual confirmation? "I have every faith in my colleagues. No one really is excited about him. We'll see what happens," he said.
He said he hoped the full Senate, where Republicans hold a 55-45 majority, would reject the nomination.
Here's what Voinovich may be thinking.
Since the Schiavo mess, it has been clear that the Christian Right has the power to drag the Republican Party into really self-destructive actions. With next week's anticipated Nuclear Option, that reality will become more apparent. The Christian Right is now dragging the moderates in directions they don't want to go.
And moderate Republicans can read the polls. It's clear that these self-destructive actions aren't going over well with the majority of the country. It's also clear that, at least at present, Bush doesn't have unequivocal support from the electorate.
If you're a moderate Republican, you've got to be constantly weighing your options, trying to identify that moment when Bush's support is weak enough to make it a burden in bluer states or among more moderate voters. You've got to be weighing the moment when it is politically better to be dissociated from Bush. Trying to identify the moment when, with concerted action, the moderates can at least take a decisive role in Senate deliberations--if not take the party back from the fundamentalists entirely.
If Bush loses on the Nuclear Option, he will be dramatically weakened going forward. If Bush loses--or miscalculates--with the Bolton nomination at the same time as losing the Nuclear Option, he'll be in serious serious trouble.
And if the Democrats are smart, they will frame the Bolton nomination in the same terms as they have the Nuclear Option. The Administration refused to give the Committee the things it needed--the NSA intercepts--to properly assess the Bolton nomination. Now, it will be pressuring Senators to do something highly unusual, to vote for a candidate who has not received a recommendation--and this for a diplomatic position! Senator Biden (Chairman Biden?) and Boxer emphasized the importance of their Constitutional role exercising oversight in their statements today. They're right to do so.
Whereas in the Committee, this was a question of Bolton's qualifications for the position, this is now a question of whether the Senate should exercise oversight over the President's nominees. Several Republican Senators, as much as the Democratic ones, recognize they've been asked to cede that role. So they can vote to confirm Bolton--and, as with passing the Nuclear Option, vote to dramatically violate the accepted practices of the Senate. Or they can vote against, and avoid setting a dangerous precedent and ceding their Constititonal role.
Last week, I said that I thought Bush was upping the stakes for his support to make it more difficult for moderates to break with him in the future. Either the moderates would become hopelessly compromised or they would call his bluff. With Voinovich's vote to advance this nomination to the Senate, this becomes an opportunity not only for Voinovich to call Bush's bluff, but for all the moderates to do so, potentially as a block.
I know RonK thinks there will be no vote. He, like DemFromCT, is much wiser than I. So I'll agree there's a pretty good chance Bush will pull back from giving the moderates a chance to totally undercut him. But one thing makes me believe Bush still might push for a vote or--and--give Bolton a recess appointment.
A lot of people say Bush wouldn't risk sending a damaged Bolton to the UN to negotiate with the world community. But that assumes Bolton's role ever was about negotiating. It's not. It's about making the UN such a terrible place to do business, countries work with the US through unilateral and multilateral agreements instead. We're never going to get a UNSC resolution against Iran. But we might get a US-EU resolution against them, particularly if getting a resolution at the UN involves negotiating with a creep like John Bolton.
Which means the decision to go forward is simply a giant game of chicken, an attempt for Bush to enforce party discipline. He may well pull it off.
Then again, Voinovich seems to be more confident about his hand then he did two weeks ago.
RonK is right that Voinovich and Luger gave Bush a way to pull Bolton. But this article by Ron Brownstein shows why that won't happen...
I like this article because one of our favorites, Steve Clemons is quoted [and, of course because it agrees with me ;-) ]:
What are those forces?
1. Borg Republicans who can not vote against Bush lest they get primaried by someone more conservative than they.
2. "A defeat on the floor would be seen as a sign that Bush's power, early in his second term, is already encountering its limits, despite Republican control of Congress."
Bottom line?
I don't care how 'torn' they are. I care how they vote. The CW is still that Bolton wins on the Senate floor (George S has already announced Bolton will win, on tonite's ABC World News). OTOH, by forcing Bolton down their throats, Bush gives every reason for Dems to filibuster. Wouldn't that an be interesting development?
Posted by: DemFromCT | May 12, 2005 at 19:49
This is actually rather fun, with you, RonK, and I all betting on different outcomes. Like I said, I'm the least-wise optimist here. But I think at some point the moderates will break. And I think, depending on HOW MUCH the field changes in the next week (it may change drastically, depending on how poorly Fristie plays the nuclear option, it may change only slightly), I think Bolton might be the breaking point.
We'll see as we go forward...
I do have to say, I had more fun watching the damn hearing today than I have had watching DC politics in a while.
Posted by: emptywheel | May 12, 2005 at 20:25
I agree entirely. RonK, you and I have presented three entirely plausible scenarios. With three different POTUS/VPOTUS, each of the three would come to pass.
And that CSPAN3 broadcast was the most fun since Ted Stevens had to eat his gavel over the Istook amendment on the House side.
Posted by: DemFromCT | May 12, 2005 at 21:21
I'm not at all sure that Democrats are less inclined to filibuster Bolton in the face of the nuclear option fight. I think there are at least a few who think it's an excellent idea. On the other hand, I'm just as sure that there are some who don't. The question will be whether they think they can provoke a nuclear response that strays outside the self-imposed boundary of judicial nominations.
On the other hand, I think it's possible that the Bush team is prepared to lose on Bolton. There's been every opportunity, up until today's revelations, to sell his nomination under the general "people of faith" umbrella. Even without explicitly trying to pass him off as "one of them," he was still salable as Bush's guy (even though he's Cheney's), and I doubt they would have had a hard time getting fundies to carry water for them on this nomination, too. No, there's no connection between their "faith" and the UN, per se, but the judge thing is bogus, too. Plus, they don't give a shit.
So I've been wondering over the last couple hours whether this is a free one for moderate Republicans -- a chance that Rove will offer them to show their "independence," without actually stirring the fundamentalist hornet's nest.
I don't think there's really any evidence that that's the case, but it was fun to think about.
Posted by: Kagro X | May 12, 2005 at 23:09
So I've been wondering over the last couple hours whether this is a free one for moderate Republicans -- a chance that Rove will offer them to show their "independence," without actually stirring the fundamentalist hornet's nest.
I don't think Bush, Rove or Cheney can afford to lose anything, anywhere, anytime. That would get the moderates to thinking they have power (and the press to thinking, period), and that's anathema to the WH playbook.
I'd be nice for a change if they'd all tell Bush to Cheney himself, but not likely to happen just yet.
Posted by: DemFromCT | May 12, 2005 at 23:26
"But I think at some point the moderates will break."
I don't see this happening until/unless the electorate delivers a rebuke in November 2006.
All the forces in the GOP right now are centripetal, not centrifugal. Everyone has decided that they must all hang together, or assuredly they shall all hang separately.
Assuming there isn't a filibuster over Bolton, 50 votes will be found. If they were one vote short, Voinivich himself would reverse course and provide it.
Waiting for GOP moderates to save the day in this environment is false hope. Only losses at the ballot box will change the dynamic.
Posted by: Petey | May 13, 2005 at 00:20
DemFromCT's post is right - very unfortunately.
In my book, the vote today proved there are no "good Republicans" - people who would put principle and country before party - left in the Senate.
Voinivoch gets to be "independent" painlessly, and the "lockstep lemurs" give Bush his victory.
Sorry, futher proof my great-uncle who worked for Harry Truman was right when he said "the only good Republicans are pushing up daisies."
Posted by: TCinLA | May 13, 2005 at 00:22
Filibuster? My gut says Democrats' interests are better served by moving the Republicans toward a vote (after extended, attended, and dramatically suspenseful debate).
First, the vote is uncomfortable for just about half of all GOP senators. For some there's a downside at the polls. Some see Bolton as a public and diplomatic embarrassment now and later. Some are appalled by his conduct as a manager, or messenger, or subordinate. Some suspect he'll deliver uproar where reform is in order. Some have reservations rooted in conservative decency, "family values", and simple norms of adult behavior. Some nurse genuine concerns tied to intelligence failures. Some resent Bolton's lack of candor and the Administration's contempt for Senate prerogatives. Some simply recognize Bolton as an element of uncontrolled and unnecessary "project risk" in the larger GOP/conservative enterprise.
Not all uncomfortable votes are reluctant votes, not all reluctant votes can be peeled off ... but there's always a price to pay for an uncomfortable "Aye". Lugar had trouble enough in the 10-seat universe of his Committee majority.
Voinovich's candid opposition -- and Hagel's evident lack of enthusiasm -- creates cover for reluctant R's and any wavering D's.
So this is the kind of vote we'd wish on our worst enemies. Bush/Cheney will have to spend political capital to win, and there's no payoff if they score. It's a vote they risk losing, and one that leaves them spent, wounded and vulnerable if they lose.
The first "showdown" loss marks the beginning of the post-Bush era. This could be it. And it's an unnecessary engagement on their part -- high stakes only because they choose to make it high stakes.
Ideally, we'd stage this ahead of the judicial confirmation showdown, to emphasize the impression that Bush makes bad appointments. Probably won't get that chance ... but we should try.
Posted by: RonK, Seattle | May 13, 2005 at 00:49
Bolton's win (see Petey) will be a pyrrhic victory as RonK says... (see new post). Bush's political capital is now deficit spending.
Posted by: DemFromCT | May 13, 2005 at 06:45
Petey
Oh, I don't think we should "wait" to let moderates save the day. I think they're begging us to force their hand. I was struck by how much more cogent Voinovich's speech was yesterday than anyone else but Obama (probably Obama's best so far). If the Dems can be clear about the reasons why Bolton is BAD FOR THE US (rather than bad for his subordinates) and if they can get some press doing so, then I do think we can win this.
And I'm with RonK. Let's move this to a vote, no filibustering. In any scenario, it will produce some good for the Dems. Plus, if Bush is really ready to recess appoint (as is rumored), then we might as well extract our pound of flesh before we get the inevitable result.
Posted by: emptywheel | May 13, 2005 at 07:18
There's definitely some untapped value in letting the Bolton nomination move ahead. It's a longshot, but less so than the longshot of trying to provoke a nuclear response to a Bolton filibuster.
I'm thinking here of the small number of moderate voters who may see it as a sign that it's time to awaken from their slumber. I spoke to a number of people, as I'm sure we all did, who, though they were perhaps voting for Kerry, ultimately did not fear a second Bush administration because "things never fall completely apart -- the government just isn't designed that way."
I wouldn't want to have to be the guy who makes the odds on it, but there's some chance that people see the one-two punch of Bolton and the nuclear option (combined with plummeting approval numbers, continued "corner turning" in Iraq, etc.) as the kind of wheels-coming-off they thought was beyond comprehension.
But keep your bets small.
Posted by: Kagro X | May 13, 2005 at 08:12
keep your bets small
Ah nuts. Evidence that you, RonK, AND DemFromCT are all wiser than I!
Posted by: emptywheel | May 13, 2005 at 08:36
Someone once said you could never go broke underestimating the intelligence (or something like it) of the American people.
Or maybe I have the idea of the quote entirely wrong. Who knows? If so, it's just more evidence that that's what the quote should be.
Posted by: Kagro X | May 13, 2005 at 10:53
Excepting the Nuclear Option, our bets are small, and time is on our side ... but it looks this Texan with the big hat is pot-committed, and determined to go all in.
Posted by: RonK, Seattle | May 13, 2005 at 13:17
"No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people." - H.L. Mencken
http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/2199
The Senate Democrats have canny old wolf Robert Byrd to show them any possible parliamentary maneuvers for next week and the next 3 weeks. Byrd will keep his eye on several prizes. Judicial nominees, Bolton, preservation of the appearance of power in the filibuster, diminution of Republican hold on the Senate come to mind. If it were the 1950's about now is when there'd be compromising photos of a few Republican senators appearing in the main state papers of those senators.
Posted by: Martha Ture | May 15, 2005 at 03:40