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May 05, 2005

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I find it funny (but sad) that evolution from the religious perspective focuses solely on the human aspect. Most of what we just studied about evolution and natural selection deals with little things like the beak of a finch and plants that changed from algae to terrestial. Does the fundie group dispel these theories of evolution as well, or is it simply a case of wanting desperately not to be a hairless ape? Gah!

"543 scientists named Steve." I love it!

"The control of learning will pass into the hands of the uneducated, and youth will leave the schools more ignorant than when it entered them." (1925)

Any numbers on whether this came true? (Particularly in the South?)

I personnally don'get get how if you believe in the creation you would want to talk about as a theory. But maybe that's just because i am not an integrist.

You can find out much more about the "543 scientists named Steve" at the National Center for Science Education's Project Steve website.

To quote from the NCSE press release,

NCSE's "Project Steve" is a tongue-in-cheek parody of a long-standing creationist tradition of amassing lists of "scientists who doubt evolution" or "scientists who dissent from Darwinism." (For examples of such lists, see the FAQs.)

Creationists draw up these lists to convince the public that evolution is somehow being rejected by scientists, that it is a "theory in crisis." Most members of the public lack sufficient contact with the scientific community to know that this claim is totally unfounded. NCSE has been exhorted by its members to compile a list of thousands of scientists affirming the validity of the theory of evolution, but although we easily could have done so, we have resisted such pressure. We did not wish to mislead the public into thinking that scientific issues are decided by who has the longer list of scientists!

Project Steve mocks this practice with a bit of humor, and because "Steves" are only about 1% of scientists, it incidentally makes the point that tens of thousands of scientists support evolution. And it honors the late Stephen Jay Gould, NCSE supporter and friend.

We'd like to think that after Project Steve, we'll have seen the last of bogus "scientists doubting evolution" lists, but it's probably too much to ask. We do hope that at least when such lists are proposed, reporters and other citizens will ask, "but how many Steves are on your list!?"

The current count on the Steve-o-meter is 563. And be sure to check out The Steve Song.

He who controls the Steves, controls the universe!

Didn't you hear? It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and STEVE!

It's Inherit the Wind II: Judgment Day!

Who do you think they'll get to play Clarence Darrow and William Jenning Bryan this time?

Seriously, Intelligent Design is insidious, based on all sorts of logical fallacies, the reduction of with would be that science is so complex, there'd have to be a Creator to figger it all out!!!

It's Inherit the Wind II: Judgment Day!

Who do you think they'll get to play Clarence Darrow and William Jenning Bryan this time?

Seriously, Intelligent Design is insidious, based on all sorts of logical fallacies, the reduction of with would be that science is so complex, there'd have to be a Creator to figger it all out!!!

Stephen Jay Gould was a College Classmate of mine, and a few years before he died, we had a nice long dinner together -- mostly a continuation of an argument that began in 1958 about Baseball. Anyhow, we talked at some length at the role he had played as an advocate -- a role he had become tired of playing. He had been a witness in Arkansas in one case, and in flying out shared a seat row with Bill Clinton just then starting his campaign for President. Once Clinton won, as Steve said, he tried to appoint him to all the boards and commissions having to do with Science -- so much so he would have had to move to Washington. He was upset that all too many of his collegues were willing to slap him on the back and praise him for doing the Professon's work -- but never were available when a chance to go witness in court came up. He likened the experience of doing dialogue with the Fundi's as equal to having a personal debate with a mass of Nuclear Missiles. "They are 'programed' and unless you know what your doing, it is unlikely you will change their minds."

I'm pleased the Science Types named their effort after him -- and that they perhaps comprehend the critical importance of the fight. Hopefully many of them will "qualify" as expert witnesses in Federal Court, and take up where Gould left off.

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