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March 10, 2007

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I've already told my bluedog congressman that he can stand on principles or he can worry about getting reelected

but if he doesn't stand up for his DEMOCRATIC principles, we're gonna find a REAL DEMOCRAT to oppose his sorry ass in the 2008 primary

I also explained how the California Election Code would prevent his sorry ass from running as an independent if he loses the primary

if these sorry piece of shit blue dogs don't want to represent DEMOCRATS, then the DEMOCRATS should throw their asses out in the primary elections

let's start finding candidates NOW

Thanks be for my Congresswoman, Barbara Lee, (one) author of the Progressive position. We need more like her and more districts like hers.

I'm also heartened by the coalition to push the Dems on this. (h/t to Laura Rozen.) These folks are absolutely correct about iraq's effect on domestic policy options. not only does it suck up all the oxygen, it sucks up a tremendous amount of money. The Blue Dogs should consider the unlikelihood of much getting done outside of Iraq until that one is settled.

And it can't be over emphasized that being afraid of seeming soft on defense is the easiest way to demonstrate that one is, in fact, soft on defense.

"But it begs the question: How serious were the Blue Dogs about that?"

Please.... it raises the question. Raises.

"begging" the question is asking everyone to concede a point you are arguing is true. ARggg. I'm going to go soothe my nerves now by reading the dictionary.

Free, I'm with you on the blue dogs, they are Republicans who didn't have the balls to run as such. Hell, some of them are probably party plants. I'm all for differing positions within a party, but these guys are in no way dems nor progressive from what I can see. Pisses me off. Now the blue dogs are running shit. sucks

Free, I'm with you on the blue dogs, they are Republicans who didn't have the balls to run as such. Hell, some of them are probably party plants. I'm all for differing positions within a party, but these guys are in no way dems nor progressive from what I can see. Pisses me off. Now the blue dogs are running shit. sucks

As the bill stands now, the enforcement mechanism cited above is out, though the Progressive Caucus may or may not be permitted to offer an amendment to put it (and other language aimed at forcing withdrawal) back in. The onus, then, is on the Progressive Caucus to either stand on principle and cast the tough vote that threatens to send the message that Democrats are divided by voting against a bill that's toothless, or to subsume that principle in order to give the Democrats a "win."

this is the key question -- not whether the bill passes with the "enforcement" provision, but whether progressives are afforded the opportunity to take a stand on "enforcement."

If there are enough Blue Dogs and Republicans who want a toothless bill, so be it. That's democracy. But we have to make sure that these people recognize that they are risking their political future by continuing to give carte blanche to Bush.

Make a list of Dems waffling on Iraq, post it on KOS.

Put a list of potential primary challengers next to each name.

Start raising money. Post the money amount available for each primary challenge.

Don't talk. Organize.

"begging" the question is asking everyone to concede a point you are arguing is true. ARggg. I'm going to go soothe my nerves now by reading the dictionary.

Mimikatz, you are so right! I always define it as "assuming the very point you are supposed to be arguing for."
Where did this virus come from? It drives me crazy too. In the last few years it seems to have spread to the point that practically everybody says it. Good on you for protesting. You know, when a wrong meaning gets substituted for a right meaning, the language loses a way of conveying an important concept. Cui bono? Obviously , the more people that don't know what question-begging is, the better for the snake-oil salesmen.

I still maintain the best way to push the party is to re-register en masse as Independents. To highlight it, burn some old voter registration cards at rallies for the cameras.

People can always choose to re-register back, for the primaries, if they wish.

But it's thhe sort of thing you could even get Republicans to join in: sending messages to BOTH parties that the WAFFLE politics of late is driving their base away.

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